[Rick_Rude]

I got passed by an arsehole in a Tesla doing about 100+ on a B road yesterday and I could tell he was coming and braced myself because of the sheer tyre noise he was making. 

Speeding aside I’m finding these things more disconcerting in urban/low speed situations as at lower speeds without the tyre noise, you can’t heard the bastards and suddenly there’s a twat close passing you. 

The other day I was going through a quiet village and moved out around a pothole without looking over my shoulder as I couldn’t hear anything. Mistake. Bloody BMW thing was trying to overtake me closely and I almost got collected. 

Give me a 5l V8 behind me any day. 

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[Kapelmuur]

If electric cars really are

If electric cars really are silent then there is going to be a huge increase in pedestrian casualties.

[Hirsute]

Don’t worry, the mods are too
Don’t worry, the mods are too busy sorting out the ads to check for unrelated political posts : emoticon:

[ktache]

I saw a Something General on

I saw a Something General on the news the other day, he looked shockingly young…

[grumpyoldcyclist]

I have a degree of sympathy

I have a degree of sympathy here regarding moving around a pothole, but it depaends how far you are moving out. If its 30 cm or less you are moving out then no, I don’t shoulder check, the car shouldn’t be anywhere near you.

How do you shoulder check prior to a gust of wind from the side?

[Owd Big 'Ead]

I’ve been running electric

I’ve been running electric vans at work for 10 years now. They can’t accelerate anywhere near as quick as electric cars. They aren’t designed to. Acceleration is muted to increase range which is still pretty woeful, especially in bigger vans.

Anyway, on a plus note I’m just about to undertake a trial with Amazon to carry out deliveries using e-cargobikes.

Job done.

[Owd Big 'Ead]

Sorry if I didn’t follow your

Sorry if I didn’t follow your post, but the statement still stands, look before you manouevre. I ride motorbikes too, don’t they call it the lifesaver during training? I also drive an EV, a Jaguar I-Pace and have a BMW i3 as a pool car at work. The I-Pace is a big SUV, you’ll always hear that, but the i3 being far smaller and running on skinnier tyres is far, far quieter.

Don’t get me wrong, I sympathise with your views, smaller EV’s will definitely be the bigger menace in the future, but as of next summer all new cars sold in Europe are required to have speed limiting sensors fitted, albeit one’s that can be overridden, but the medium term trend will be for vehicles to obey speed limits regardless of driver input. I’m pretty sure this enforcement of speed limits is to ensure other road users and pedestrians are treated far more equitably.

Probably best if I get mesen down to Specsavers asap 

[Awavey]

no Im not old, Im just more

no Im not old, Im just more experienced

[brooksby]

hirsute wrote:

Time for some politics !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58170665

Noooooooooooooo……!  Not “politics”!

[Rick_Rude]

Try reading my post again.
Try reading my post again. The Tesla and the BMW were separate incidents. I could hear the Tesla as it was doing a high speed with high tyre noise. I never changed positions with the tesla. Yes it was doing 100+ as I do those speeds myself on motorbike so I know fast.

The BMW was doing about 20mph and I never heard it

[quiff]

I don’t disagree with the

I don’t disagree with the principle of a shoulder check but by the same logic, if the Tesla was being driven anywhere close to 100mph, surely it’d also be so far behind that you wouldn’t spot it on a quick glance back?  

[Secret_squirrel]

Yes.  Zero BIK/Company Car

Yes.  Zero BIK/Company Car tax on Electric vehicles – of any make not just Tesla’s.  Makes a huge difference if you are lucky enough to have a job with a car allowance.

[Owd Big 'Ead]

So the reality is you failed

So the reality is you failed to look behind you when pulling out, but it’s easier to blame the EV driver than look at your own poor riding. If the Tesla was being driven anywhere close to the speed you quoted he’d have been so far behind you when starting to pull out that it’s unlikely you’d hear them regardless of their choice of propulsion, however EV’s weigh considerably more than ICE vehicles, therefore their tyre noise is far more noticeable, but the’ve still got to be close enough to hear.

Tl;dr always glance back every time you change your road position. Better safe, than dead.

[wtjs]

tyre noise is usually quite

tyre noise is usually quite noticeable, though

I agree. I don’t view electric cars as any less detectable than a large IC engine van travelling at 50 which suddenly appears by your right shoulder. 

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

Awavey wrote:

Id not be surprised, albeit based on my admittedly poor sample size, but the demographic of people I see on electric scooters are almost exclusively those who arent legally old enough to drive anyway, or those who most likely cant afford to own a car.

Are you sure it isn’t that you’re so old that everyone else looks young?

That explains that ten year old policeman I saw the other day!

[Hirsute]

Time ofr some politics !

Time for some politics !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58170665

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