[AfterPeak]

I have been cycling/commuting for many years in London now and I have to say the number of cyclists going through red lights is getting ridiculous. It hurts us all when people do this.

I propose we all shout a chorus of “Loser” when someone goes through a red light because I am not sure they know. I did have ruder words but I am saying them for close passes.

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[AfterPeak]

It is not about who is the

It is not about who is the biggest kn@bhead on the road. We already know that those that drive cars/vans and don’t follow the rules are. That is of course because cyclists are the most at risk group on the road.

Kn@bhead drives doesnt mean you can be a kn@bhead cyclist.

Maybe I should have suggested a “Don’t be a kn@bhead campaign” aimed at all road users 🙂

[Alessandro]

I am absolutely not condoning

I am absolutely not condoning it but I really don’t see why the actions of someone else using the same mode of transport should have any impact on me. I regularly see drivers skip lights or play on their phones but I know that they don’t all do that. 

You admit to seeing several drivers of multi-ton metal boxes go through red lights yet your ire is directed towards people on bikes which I find odd. How come you aren’t suggesting a campaign to go chasing after those drivers shouting ‘loser’ at them? 

[brooksby]

You should probably just put

You should probably just put up a public gallery of these.

“I would like to use Picture #6 to illustrate this point…”

😉

[markieteeee]

I’ve also been cycling in

I’ve also been cycling in London for a number of years and it’s very rare that I see it. Of course there may be routes where it’s common so I can’t discount your experience but I’m always left scratching my head when I read that this is a massive problem in London. It’s the sort of thing that usually appears in below the line comments where someone is excusing a violent road death or ranting against LTNs so I tend to take it with a pinch of salt.   

 

[AfterPeak]

Often!

Often!

[wycombewheeler]

AfterPeak wrote:

.. ignore the bike box and decide to stop right at the intersection instead.

because the bike box is full of cars?

[quiff]

I have a lot of sympathy with

I have a lot of sympathy with your frustration. My sister was hit by a cyclist while she was using a crossing on a green man. He (the cyclist, not the green man) broke her ankle and collarbone, dusted himself off and left. I sometimes used to regale other cycle commuters with that one, and mostly they had the good grace to then stop bleating about how it was fine because they’d never hit anyone.  

But I’m not convinced about the “it hurts us all” argument. If I run a red light on my bike (which I don’t), that in no way justifies a driver behaving dangerously towards me, and it certainly doesn’t justify them behaving dangerously towards other cyclists. On the occasions when a driver spouts some supposedly self-justifying nonsense at me about all cyclists running red lights (which, ironically, they often seem to do while we are both stopped at a red light) I can confidently say I do stop, and so they’re talking horseshit.       

[AfterPeak]

lol! I go very slowly to save

lol! I go very slowly to save it for just such an occasion.

[hawkinspeter]

I’m surprised you’ve got any

I’m surprised you’ve got any breath left to shout at cyclists if you’re shouting at every single motorist that you see speeding

[quiff]

Not an offence to cross on a

Not an offence to cross on a red man.

[AfterPeak]

I do that already as per my

I do that already as per my original post

[AfterPeak]

On a given day I (personally)

On a given day I (personally) see maybe one or two cars skip the lights. I see probably 50+ bikes run red lights or ignore the bike box and decide to stop right at the intersection instead.

I am not bothered by pedestrians running red lights. They rarely shout at me while zooming passed inches away at 50mph.

Also just because other road users are losers doesnt mean cyclist are allowed to be.

[hawkinspeter]

How about shouting something

How about shouting something at motorists that speed?

[wtjs]

It hurts us all when people

It hurts us all when people do this

I owe it to my public to respond to this with a repetition of the photo. The answer is, yes he did

[Alessandro]

Will you be organising

Will you be organising something similar for when you’re driving car or see a pedestrian cross on a red man? 

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