[Sriracha]

BBC One on 17 January at 7.30pm – Panorama: Britain’s Killer Roads?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60002624

This is tragic and I would not want to make capital out of personal tragedy, but if we seek prison time for the road then nothing changes. Given the question mark in the title, can we hope the programme will go deeper than blaming the road and find real solutions, and put and end to such tragedy.

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[Awavey]

Well the Panorama selection
Well the Panorama selection of NMOTD, well more like collisions of the day, show its naff all to do with the roads in those cases, presumably theyll explain the A82 in more depth.

But seriously, road traffic policing has been deprioritised for the best part of nearly 30 years, the first Gatso was installed 1991, this isnt really a new news story.

I actually passed one of those community cameras yesterday as I was overtaken by a car doing 37mph in a 30 limit, I was barely chugging along at 13mph into a headwind, I doubt it captured the reg being not quite driving centre in the lane.

And certainly none of the other cars doing 40-50mph in some cases in 30 limits were being caught because there were no cameras and no police.

[wycombewheeler]

Yorkshie Whippet wrote:

As a car driver, the biggest problem we face is “fuel savers”. By that I mean those that drive in too high a gear/too low revs that invaribly end up crawlling everywhere. 

Not helped by modern cars always advising to use a higher gear, even though the car has just been unale to hold the speed in that gear due to the gradient.

[fenix]

There are some speed limits

There are some speed limits that are too high around here – and if you don’t know the road  – you can’t hit that limit. 

So you get people doing 40 in a 50 zone – but they are usually the same people doing 40 in a 30 zone too !

There are a lot of bad drivers out there. 

[HoarseMann]

Don’t worry, they’re on the

Don’t worry, they’re on the case. I spotted this on the news the other day…

[Yorkshie Whippet]

iandusud wrote:

I had the same reaction as you. There’s even a woman who is interviewed about the A82 who says that she doesn’t blame anyone, it’s the road’s fault!

Unfortunately the article gives no breakdown on the contributory factors in the “acidents” but I suspect that excess speed would feature in the vast majority of cases. If that is the case then surely more fixed speed cameras (whilst far from perfect) would be a relatively cheap measure to reduce the number of incidences. 

 

Excess speed, no! Shear stupidity in thinking the car can defy laws of physics or impatience, yes.

Doesn’t matter if the speed limit is 60mph if you go into a 30mph corner and 35mph, you will fall off. Dosen’t matter if the speed limit is 60 mph if you attempt an over take that requires X meters to be safe and there is X-2 meters. 

As a car driver, the biggest problem we face is “fuel savers”. By that I mean those that drive in too high a gear/too low revs that invaribly end up crawlling everywhere. The same ones then get pissed off and leave clouds of black diesal smoke, as I pass safely in the right gear to have the revs in the power range winding up my turbo. Before any says, I know the limit is a limit and not a target, but if there is no reason why your vehicle cannot drive to the limit, yet you constantly drive well below, ( like 40 in a 60 zone or 20 in 30 zone) you need to consider if you are fit to drive.

 

 

[AlsoSomniloquism]

Have average speed camera or

Have average speed camera or have fixed and mobile cameras and remove the need to “warn” drivers that there is any. Also any cars found to have the darkened number plates should be seized and sold at auction. Remove the 14 day NIPS requirements and reduced points until unavoidable bans to 9 points rather then 12. 

All of that would easily raise safety, remove more dangerous drivers and could be self funding. It is a plaster as doesn’t catch poorer driving on smaller roads, but if they were more proactive with Dash cam etc that might help.

[David9694]

typical driver stuff –

typical driver stuff – someone else is not working hard enough to “sort the traffic”. 

[iandusud]

I had the same reaction as

I had the same reaction as you. There’s even a woman who is interviewed about the A82 who says that she doesn’t blame anyone, it’s the road’s fault!

Unfortunately the article gives no breakdown on the contributory factors in the “acidents” but I suspect that excess speed would feature in the vast majority of cases. If that is the case then surely more fixed speed cameras (whilst far from perfect) would be a relatively cheap measure to reduce the number of incidences. 

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