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Proposal to modify ASL zone – opinions wanted.

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  • November 21, 2013 at 4:28 pm #20243
    Neil753

    Just wondering how cyclists feel about this, so any opinions would be welcome.

    I’m sure that ASLs were originally invisaged as an aid for cyclists turning right, and not to facilitate a “massed start” for those cyclists intending to go staight on, all jockying for position, sometimes across the entire width of the ASL.

    So, I suggest a visible division within the ASL zone, encouraging cyclists to only place themselves in front of another vehicle if they intend to turn right, but for all other cyclists to remain near the kerb, and no more than two abreast.

    The aim would be to enable right turning cyclists to be well to the front of any lorry, and to help minimise conflict between cyclists and other vehicles when travelling straight ahead.

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  • November 22, 2013 at 9:59 am #763759
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    teaboy

    You’re starting from the
    You’re starting from the wrong point. You need to work out what will make junctions safer and easier for cyclists, not ‘how can we change ASLs’. The poor modification of infrastructure has got us where we are now. Properly designing things and building them completely works better.

    November 22, 2013 at 9:48 am #763757
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    Argos74

    Hugging the kerb sounds like
    Hugging the kerb sounds like the best way to invite a left hook. After a few close calls, I always take the primary on approach to a junction, whether in the ASL or in traffic. It means I control the lane, and anyone wanting to turn left is just going to have to wait until I’ve cleared the junction. Means I get beeped and shouted at from time to time, but better that than being wiped out.

    November 22, 2013 at 8:37 am #763755
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    PJ McNally

    No. ASLs are often necessary
    No. ASLs are often necessary to go STRAIGHT ON safely (e.g. if there is a left turn up ahead), not just for turning right.

    Keep them until we can have proper Dutch infrastructure.

    r.e. the “MASSED START” for those of us going straight on, it’s simple – if I’m on my road bike and feeling strong, i take a position further right than if I’m feeeling weak, on my town bike, towing a trailer!

    (though you will sometimes get the occasional idiot who positions far to the right despite having the legs of lets-just-say-not-a-regular-cyclist. This is by no means a reason to get rid of infrastructure which works ok most of the time).

    November 22, 2013 at 7:51 am #763753
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    Jack Osbourne snr

    I agree with the sentiment
    I agree with the sentiment behind your idea. However, its my observation that too few people know how to use them as it is and I suspect the changes you propose wouldn’t deal with that.

    I’d rather see them completely removed than adapted.

    November 22, 2013 at 2:39 am #763751
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    chokofingrz

    Why not have a row of spikes
    Why not have a row of spikes that come up when the lights are red?

    November 22, 2013 at 2:10 am #763749
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    northstar

    Get rid of them and put in
    Get rid of them and put in exact same paths they have in the netherlands, problem solved.

    November 21, 2013 at 10:29 pm #763747
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    drfabulous0

    No
    No

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