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September 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm #19865
Jack ward
Dose anyone have any preferences on starter carbon bikes
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badkneestom
For 1200 pounds I built a
For 1200 pounds I built a totally custom CAAD 10. You could buy stock, but you’ll want to upgrade things. Here’s a breakdown of my parts and cost (USD, I’m not a conversion wizard):CAAD 10 frame and fork – $600
SRAM Rival – $230
Easton EC70 Seatpost – $40
Syntace Stem – $32
Oval Bars – $25
Fizik Tape – $15
Jagwire TEFLON COATED racer cables – $35
Fulcrum 3 racing wheels – $520
Conti Gatorskin tires – $80My Rivet Independence saddle – $200
Shop put it together for $300. Some of the things were purchased from them.
I have nothing I want to upgrade, everything’s awesome. ie: my stem weighs 96g.
Total bike weight is 7100g.
Nixster
The 2013 Cannondale Supersix
The 2013 Cannondale Supersix Tiagra (carbon) is fairly widely available at £1199 presently and CAAD 10 with 105 (aluminium) at £1099. I think most would agree the Supersix is a good carbon frame for a grand (ish) with functional if not great groupset.But the CAAD 10 is only 100g heavier on the frame and a hundred notes would go towards a decent set of wheels.
You pays your money etc but hard to see you’d go badly wrong either way.
matthewn5
Having had both a Planet X SL
Having had both a Planet X SL Pro and and a Canyon Ultimate AL, I can confidently say that the aluminium Canyon is a vastly better bike. Not more than a few hundred grammes heavier, but a vastly better, stiffer frame and just as comfortable with carbon forks and carbon seatpost.I liked my PX initially, but as I used it I found the SL Pro frame flexy and with weirdly vague steering at speed. That is not something you want on a bike in a 30 mph downhill corner.
Go with a first class Aluminium frame any time over a cheap carbon frame.
arfa
when I got hit by a car in
when I got hit by a car in February, the costing of carbon repair vs a new frame was pretty much the same so it was an easy decision to go with the new frame and not have any anxiety about structural weaknesses arising from impact.robert.brady
arfa wrote:
The major issuearfa wrote:
The major issue is that if you have a smash on aluminium, you might be able to repair it. on carbon, no chanceThere are a number of specialist companies able to repair carbon frames. With the new crop of aluminium frames using ultra thin tube walls, I’d imagine they are harder to repair.
Rob
arfa
realistically longevity in
realistically longevity in quality carbon is not an issue (aeroplanes are increasingly manufactured with the stuff and they have 30-50 year time horizons).
The major issue is that if you have a smash on aluminium, you might be able to repair it. on carbon, no chance.you pay yer money, you makes your choices…
700c
SlowSPDRider wrote:+1 For
SlowSPDRider wrote:+1 For aluminium.The frame will last forever and is cheaper so if you have a grand you can get a better groupset and other stuff…..
Can’t agree with the generalisation that aluminium will last forever – I’ve broken three alu frames in recent years! Don’t know if the implication is that carbon is less durable – but not sure that’s true either – (though I’ve no experience of carbon). Possibly metal might stand up to knocks better than carbon?
As long as you get a frame with a reasonable warranty from a reputable manufacturer, then it should be ok though, regardless of material
Agreed that there seems to be good value in a decent Alu frame vs a carbon one. If this means you can get better components on the Alu frame, as has been said, then it’s got to be worth considering.
OldnSlo
+1 ribble pro evo carbon
+1 ribble pro evo carbonYorkshireMike
UnflappableEd wrote:+1 For
UnflappableEd wrote:+1 For Planet X sl, I got hit by a car in it and the frame and forks are fine, front wheel and rear wheel both aluminium, both bent beyond repairYou make that sound like a wheel and frame are comparable in an impact situation. Completely different.
YorkshireMike
Giant Defy. Incredibly
Giant Defy. Incredibly comfortable, perfectly lightweight, stiff and responsive. Carbon for me next year, but only once I’ve budgeted a couple of grand for the frame…UnflappableEd
+1 For Planet X sl, I got hit
+1 For Planet X sl, I got hit by a car in it and the frame and forks are fine, front wheel and rear wheel both aluminium, both bent beyond repair, when it happened I thought I was looking at a whole new bike….Also I love the look of it, it looks mean. Goes like the clappers and is as light as a bike can be at that price.
Ultegra is good, I have used a few times, but mine came with Sram Force, which I personally prefer.
Good luck with either anyway.
Yorkshie Whippet
+1for Planet X superlight pro
+1for Planet X superlight pro carbon. Mine is heading towards 5yrs old and has done Paris Roubaix. Keep thinking about a new frame but it rides so nicely.SlowSPDRider
+1 For aluminium.
The frame
+1 For aluminium.The frame will last forever and is cheaper so if you have a grand you can get a better groupset and other stuff…..
mooleur
+1 to quality alu for a
+1 to quality alu for a starter, the Allez is awesome & speedy enough for racing.You’re better off concentrating on the quality of your groupset first, if you go budget carbon you’re going to sacrifice quality gearing first off which will inhibit you more in racing than a slightly lighter frame.
I race on carbon but am seriously considering going back to metal at the moment, or maybe both #greed, it’s my legs that do the work and I always seem to ride quicker on an alu bike.
arfa
For me, this bike is a steel
For me, this bike is a steel and would be top of my list in the £1k bracket
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