Fantasy ‘team’ competition for 2014

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    drheaton

    I realised that I'd had this idea last year then totally forgotten about it.

    [quote=drheaton]Teams of teams – another possible feature, 9 players band together into one team of players, their scores are combined in some way (straight sum of scores, average of all 9 or maybe lose the highest and lowest and sum/average what's left) and they compete against other teams for a prize (Grand tours only maybe?). Should be fun and unpredictable, also, good for getting people to get involved on the forum[/quote]

    So, I figured I'd see if anyone was interested in giving this a go?

    Plan is to try and put together 5-10 teams of 10-12 players ahead of the start of next year, each team has a 'league' set up so its easier for me to work out scores and then for each major race or group of races (Giro, Tour, Vuelta, Worlds, Cobbled Classics, Ardennes Classics) each team manager picks a team of 8 players and those scores are used for the competition.  That means you can rotate and drop players on holiday and also so that I can drop myself for the classics 😀

    Anyway, at this point in time I'm just curious to see how many people would be interested (we need probably 50-100 to make it worthwhile) and what kind of score system we should use (averages, total of all players, total of all excluding the best/worst etc).

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  • #753895
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    chiv30

    What happened to this?
    What happened to this?

    #753893
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    1wrangler

    Sounds like a great idea. I’m
    Sounds like a great idea. I’m in.
    Doing the major races that drheaton named, with a warm-up race sounds good. I could see doing it with any number of squads from 3 to about 10 or so I guess.

    #753891
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    ray silvester

    Philip Unwin wrote:I like the

    Philip Unwin wrote:
    I like the sound of this, but why do I get the feeling that I’ll be like the fat kid that nobody wants when picking footie teams.

    I certainly wouldn’t be aggrieved to have you as a team mate Phil.

    #753889
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    Philip Unwin

    I like the sound of this, but
    I like the sound of this, but why do I get the feeling that I’ll be like the fat kid that nobody wants when picking footie teams.

    #753887
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    stevemarks

    stevemarks wrote:I am in and

    stevemarks wrote:
    I am in and will bring my three daughters as well!

    Stevemarks
    n4talia
    c4rolina
    happylemon

    I think we would need to be in the same team though!

    #753885
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    stevemarks

    I am in and will bring my
    I am in and will bring my three daughters as well!

    Stevemarks
    n4talia
    c4rolina
    happylemon

    #753883
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    serge78

    Sounds great. I am in.
    Sounds great. I am in.

    #753881
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    drheaton

    Just had a quick look at this
    Just had a quick look at this years calendar and I think the plan is now to open the game for entries during the TDU, try and drum up support during the Tours of Oman, Qatar and Algarve in February then run a trial event during Paris-Nice at the start of March.

    Official calendar (depending on what gets included in the fantasy game) would look something like:

    Classics (mid March to mid April):
    Milan-Sanremo
    Gent-Wevelgem
    E3 Harelbeke
    Ronde van Vlaanderen
    Paris-Roubaix
    Amstel Gold Race
    La Flèche Wallonne
    Liège – Bastogne – Liège

    Giro d’Italia (May)

    Tour de France (July)

    Vuelta a Espana (September)

    Classics wise we’ll just include whatever ends up in the game so stuff like E3 may/may not be in there but we’ll see.

    Another option may be to include any women’s races in the game as a separate event that runs all year long?

    #753879
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    drheaton

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:Agree

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    Agree sticking to bigger races, but maybe use a race thats early like the TDU or P-N as a trial run?

    Good idea, will probably look to set it up around the time of the TDU when people are coming back to the game and have a trial run before the classics.

    ray silvester wrote:
    Count me in and I’d say combined top 3 scores as per team standings in the real races?

    I’d say pick non-premium races but only ever one on at a time so no overlapping as it were?

    Oh Yeah…..Baggsy I’m on Wig_Billy’s team ;)

    The ‘real races’ use the top riders on each stage. We could do that but it’d be significantly more work to administer as we’d have to check each teams score for each stage rather than just doing a total. I can see the point of just taking the top scores from the team but then it means that half the team don’t contribute anything, that’d be good in a way as it’d remove the posibility of someone ‘letting the side down’ but it’d also mean a team could be easily carried by a couple of players.

    In theory I would love to run it in such a way that you could tactically stack some teams for the sprints whilst others aim for the mountains but in the end it’d just get in the way of people playing the game.

    Either way, I’m open to suggestions, there’s probably 4+ months yet before we actually finalise anything and get the game underway.

    #753877
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    ray silvester

    Count me in and I’d say
    Count me in and I’d say combined top 3 scores as per team standings in the real races?

    I’d say pick non-premium races but only ever one on at a time so no overlapping as it were?

    Oh Yeah…..Baggsy I’m on Wig_Billy’s team 😉

    #753875
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    TERatcliffe26

    Agree sticking to bigger
    Agree sticking to bigger races, but maybe use a race thats early like the TDU or P-N as a trial run?

    #753873
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    drheaton

    Seems to be a little bit of
    Seems to be a little bit of interest so I might push ahead and try and formalise some simple rules.

    Out of interest, what races would everyone like to use?

    I’m basically thinking:

    – Classics (as a whole, so MSR through Paris-Roubaix all the way to L-B-L etc) as one competition so you’d fix your ‘squad’ of players for this entire competition
    – Giro d’Italia
    – Tour de France
    – Vuelta a Espana
    – World Championships (road race, individual time trial and team time trial)

    What do you think? Want to keep it simple, stick to the bigger races, and make sure that it doesn’t become too onerous for the captains to pick teams. Anything else that stands out for you as a ‘must have’ race?

    Plan is that each ‘team’ would set up a private league just for team members to join, that’d allow the captains to easily see race scores etc and mean that individual team members would have pretty much zero additional work (other than to let captain/teammates know when they want to be excluded from the racing).

    Depending on take up a race squad will be made up of 5-9 players with a couple spare to allow rotation. Ideally I’d like to have a minimum of 5 separate teams so if we get 40 players it’ll probably be 5 teams of 8 players and a race squad would be 6 players per race.

    More players would result in either bigger teams or more teams.

    Make sense?

    #753871
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    drheaton

    I’d considered either a draft
    I’d considered either a draft style comp among the captains, random pick or some kind of ‘salary capped’ system where your team can recruit anyone but there’s a limit to how many players you could have over a certain overall score. Either way there needs to be some system in place to stop all of the top players just ending up on one team.

    The easiest method may be a random pick but with a seeding system. Based on overall or grand tour performance we’d seed the fantasy players and put them into groups so that each team can only have one from the top seed group, one from the second seeding group etc to spread out the ‘best’ players across each team.

    I had also considered a post Tour transfer window where you can drop non-active players and pick up others not attached to a team but I think that would depend on whether it was needed at the time.

    #753869
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    backflipbedlem

    Would the ‘teams’ be picked
    Would the ‘teams’ be picked for us, or randomly selected?
    What happens if one or more of your team players stops playing fantasy cycling?
    Things to consider…

    #753867
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    backflipbedlem

    I’m down for anything dude,
    I’m down for anything dude, love all the extra side comps, 3 spaniards etc, just adds another bit of spice to it.
    Think 5 players is a nice amount per team.
    Spose that would mean another new badge as well, Winning Team Comp

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