Eneco Tour – Stage 1

I don’t have Renshaw , but
I don’t have Renshaw :”( , but good start for my purist team I think, with Boom and Phinney picking up some points.

Greipel 2nd
I think Nizzolo may have been 3rd (although didnt look like him), and Richeze 4th 😕

Bozic lost ground :”(

livestrongnick wrote: renshaw

livestrongnick wrote:

:D renshaw wins it :D

Boom, Phinney, Bodnar 1,2,3
Boom, Phinney, Bodnar 1,2,3 at the last Bonificates sprint
Jacobs, Verraes, De Vreese 1,2,3, at the 2nd one
Those 3 contested the 1st but was in a different order, I believe it was won by Verraes

De Vreese won both the primus sprints

Gkam84 wrote:And as you know

Gkam84 wrote:

And as you know Dr, the value’s have been adjusted after all the TDF complaints, so it has lead to everyone being cheap.

This is true, but again Dave did that without knowing the rosters, so it could have worked out perfectly with a few bigger names/GC type guys.

The other thing is the fact that people will pick the cheaper sprinters due to the fact its almost a race of two halves, as its almost 4 flat stages followed by the ITT and 2 lumpy stages. Had these been mixed up, a greater diversity of teams would been seen.

There are a few I could say that were maybe cheaper than they should be, but equally there are plenty that id say are about right (if you take out who is or isnt riding)

it’ll be interesting to see
it’ll be interesting to see what people *do* with their teams though – having a bigger selection of affordable riders will mean that the choices possibly aren’t as obvious.

like the good doctor says, eneco is the opposite of the Tour – a lot of second tier riders. the current Vuelta roster is more balanced: valverde will still cost you 40 but mid-range stars will be cheaper and so there’s more choice for a given stage: both in who to pick, and who to transfer.

(you can’t see the vuelta yet BTW)

drheaton wrote:Gkam84

drheaton wrote:

Gkam84 wrote:

See what happens when you lower the rider value’s….everyone picks very similar teams. Hopefully get that changed back before the USA Pro……DAVE??

In fairness, other than Greipel all of the sprinters racing are ‘second tier’ sprinters or have been at some point in the last twelve months meaning they haven’t built up masses of fantasy points.

In the last twelve months Kittel has earned 462 points. Compare that to Sagan who has 1281 or Cavendish who has 1256. You know as well as anyone that values are based on the entire list of riders and not just those racing so this isn’t so much an issue of everyone’s values being too low as it is the complete opposite of the Tour de France.

During the TdF there were lots of complaints about high values. We all said that it was because teams brought their strongest and most in-form riders. This is the exact opposite with major stars being left at home and teams being built around second tier sprinters. That’s why the riders are cheaper.

You can’t tell people to ‘deal with it’ during the TdF then demand change now, this is just how the pricing works and unless we price based on finalised rosters the night before the race there’s not much that we can do about it.

Totally agree, its nice to have a bit of money to play with, without most of the budget spent on just a couple of the top riders.

3 riders @8.10 after 50km

3 riders @8.10 after 50km
VERRAES Benjamin
JACOBS Pieter
DE VREESE Laurens

See what happens when you
See what happens when you lower the rider value’s….everyone picks very similar teams. Hopefully get that changed back before the USA Pro……DAVE??