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August 10, 2013 at 3:20 pm #19575
mattbibbings
No one has them. I don’t, I bet you don’t either.
They are a legal requirement https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82/overview-59-to-71
It was mentioned here /content/news/90037-driver-who-killed-oxford-cyclist-found-not-guilty-dangerous-driving-guilty
Does it matter?
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What about a sticker on the
What about a sticker on the pedals? I don’t have reflectors on my pedals but don’t usually ride at night, but a reflective sticker on the back of them wouldn’t be a hardship.mattbibbings
I would seriously consider
I would seriously consider riding up to a copper at night on my bike (with lights) and ask their opinion when in real terms my 900lumen front light and 2 watt pulsing led rear seriously out weigh small amber reflectors.The Rumpo Kid
Cycleoptic wrote:Do
Cycleoptic wrote:Do reflective parts on my shimano cycling shoes count they are attached to the pedals when I ride?
They would not meet the requirement, which is amber pedal reflectors front and rear marked BS6102/2 or equivalent. You should also have a rear facing red reflector on the bike itself (no matter how many lights you have).downfader
pinecooler wrote:cidermart
pinecooler wrote:cidermart wrote:In that case the pedals without them being sold are illegal and therefore should not be used on the roads 😕 . How long before there is a disclaimer in with the pedal literature, if there isn’t already, or some Ftard starts suing them for it not having them. Still it gives another reason to be stopped and ticketed in Cambridge and other places. :evil:The sale of pedals without reflectors is not illegal in the same way that the sale of GPS jamming equipment is not illegal. However their use is illegal. (only at night for the pedals without reflectors)
It may be an outdated law but I imagine it would be easily neutralised provided suitable lighting and alternate reflective clothing is used.
And if someone goes out at night without something hiviz/reflective then they are an idiot.
I’ve worn said kit at night. I can honestly say in my experience it doesn’t make a lot of difference.
During the winter I have white bands down my lycra longs, and reflective strips on my tops. People still pull out or close pass from time to time. Short of waving my arms like a maniac and shouting “please dont hit me!” at every car I see I dont see that changing unless attitudes are properly challenged and red herrings removed from the debates.
If someone wears a black coat at night I dont really care as long as the lights are up to scratch!
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Cycleoptic wrote:Do
Cycleoptic wrote:Do reflective parts on my shimano cycling shoes count they are attached to the pedals when I ride?Legally no. This is why the law needs to be updated. Studies also need to be done to verify that reflectors do what people assume they do.
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Do reflective parts on my
Do reflective parts on my shimano cycling shoes count they are attached to the pedals when I ride?cidermart
Thank you for clarification.
Thank you for clarification. A lot of my rides do end in darkness so maybe just a big sticker saying “Not to be used at night” then. As for lights always just no reflectors.pinecooler
cidermart wrote:In that case
cidermart wrote:In that case the pedals without them being sold are illegal and therefore should not be used on the roads 😕 . How long before there is a disclaimer in with the pedal literature, if there isn’t already, or some Ftard starts suing them for it not having them. Still it gives another reason to be stopped and ticketed in Cambridge and other places. :evil:The sale of pedals without reflectors is not illegal in the same way that the sale of GPS jamming equipment is not illegal. However their use is illegal. (only at night for the pedals without reflectors)
It may be an outdated law but I imagine it would be easily neutralised provided suitable lighting and alternate reflective clothing is used.
And if someone goes out at night without something hiviz/reflective then they are an idiot.
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cidermart wrote:In that case
cidermart wrote:In that case the pedals without them being sold are illegal and therefore should not be used on the roads 😕 . How long before there is a disclaimer in with the pedal literature, if there isn’t already, or some Ftard starts suing them for it not having them. Still it gives another reason to be stopped and ticketed in Cambridge and other places. :evil:No.
The law states “illegal during the hours of darkness”. Not illegal full-stop.
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In that case the pedals
In that case the pedals without them being sold are illegal and therefore should not be used on the roads 😕 . How long before there is a disclaimer in with the pedal literature, if there isn’t already, or some Ftard starts suing them for it not having them. Still it gives another reason to be stopped and ticketed in Cambridge and other places. 👿nicstevenson
Have them on my city bike but
Have them on my city bike but wouldn’t dream of sullying my road bike with anything approaching a reflector! That said, I never ride it at night… And strongly doubt they have much influence on drivers looking at sat navs, eating sandwiches or fiddling with phones anyway!downfader
I wrote to the Government
I wrote to the Government during their red tape campaign to have this amended. I and many others have said that a snap-band ankle reflector, or shoe/clothing reflectors SHOULD be a suitable replacement.Motorcyclists dont have this problem, and I strongly think cyclists – if they have good lights – shouldn’t either.
I can see no strong evidence that it really makes a difference, whereas lights do.
The Rumpo Kid
Although you are unlikely to
Although you are unlikely to be arrested for not having them, they are still a legal requirement (at night). My worry would be a smart Lawyer using an abscence of reflectors as evidence of contributory negligence in Court. -
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