Amber pedal reflectors – are you bothered?

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    mattbibbings

    No one has them. I don’t, I bet you don’t either.

    They are a legal requirement https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82/overview-59-to-71

    It was mentioned here /content/news/90037-driver-who-killed-oxford-cyclist-found-not-guilty-dangerous-driving-guilty

    Does it matter?

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  • #751447
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    antigee

    when driving I can think of a
    when driving I can think of a few times when I’ve spotted an unlit bike because of the movement of the pedal reflectors so the insistence that they are fitted to all bikes sold on the assumption that some numpties won’t use lights makes some sort of sense – with modern high power flashing lights (and I always have 2 fitted just in case) no need – I’m sure will come up in court cases as police will report if bike was considered roadworthy in legal sense – irrespective of common sense

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    paulfg42

    I’ve got reflectors on the
    I’ve got reflectors on the flat pedals on my hybrid B-)

    #751443
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    Tilesey

    +1
    My commute takes me out of

    +1

    My commute takes me out of the town and onto unlit country lanes. I have excellent lights and hopefully some luck on my side. I don’t feel reflectors would add anything to the package…

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    freespirit1

    downfader wrote:I wrote to

    downfader wrote:
    I wrote to the Government during their red tape campaign to have this amended. I and many others have said that a snap-band ankle reflector, or shoe/clothing reflectors SHOULD be a suitable replacement.

    Motorcyclists dont have this problem, and I strongly think cyclists – if they have good lights – shouldn’t either.

    I can see no strong evidence that it really makes a difference, whereas lights do.


    Motorbikes do have to have reflectors, one of my previous bikes failed an MOT for it.

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    Gary rb

    wear bright cloathing . Have
    wear bright cloathing . Have good front and rear lights. don’t start saying two little pedal relectors are going to stop someone knocking you off!!!! will they work from the side? catch the bad road users – yes that includes some cyclist.
    who still has the white spoke reflectors fitted?

    “Care and Share Everywhere” thats my motto, you read it here- pass it on please.

    We should all learn to be carefull and respect other road users – simple 🙂

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    daddyELVIS

    No, not bothered. Don’t have
    No, not bothered. Don’t have rear, front, or wheel reflectors either.

    #751435
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    Simon E

    Argos74 wrote:Oh crap. I got

    Argos74 wrote:
    Oh crap. I got double sided SPDs with no space for reflectors. And now I’ve got used to SPDs, am not going back to flat pedals. SPDs feel safer.

    All is not lost!

    You could get a pair of Shimano SM-PD22 clip-on reflectors, they are plenty on ebay. I have a pair fitted to my wet/winter bike. You can also find the pedals sold with the reflectors included.

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    Crankwinder

    Studies have been done, by
    Studies have been done, by TRRL in the 1980s. These studies found that whilst a red light could be seen from further away, pedal reflectors gave the most distant notification that the thing in front was a pedal cycle. So in 1983 reflectors were required on both faces of the pedals on all new bikes sold, and a few years later it became illegal to ride at night without them.

    Given that a pedal cycle goes slower than a car, so the driver has to brake or steer pretty soon after realising the little red light in front is NOT on a more distant motorbike, I think we must agree that the matter of identification is pretty important. Since the 1980s however, the use of flashing lights has become commonplace and even legal, on pedal cycles but no other vehicles. So nowadays, a flashing light also uniquely identifies a pedal cycle.

    It has not been shown that pedal reflectors play any role in identifying cycles from in front. So logically, front pedal reflectors are required only because pedals may be presented either way up.

    So I would argue that an additional rear light should be permitted to substitute for pedal reflectors, so as to provide at least one steady and one flashing rear light on pedal cycles not equipped with pedal reflectors.

    If you agree with this suggestion, please write to your MP with it.

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    Cycle_Jim

    Interestingly enough for this
    Interestingly enough for this to be brought up, I bought some SPD pedals to replace my old ones that were looking a bit scruffy/worn and they came with screw on pedal reflectors – the first set didn’t.

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    robert.brady

    downfader wrote:I’ve worn

    downfader wrote:
    I’ve worn said kit at night. I can honestly say in my experience it doesn’t make a lot of difference.

    During the winter I have white bands down my lycra longs, and reflective strips on my tops. People still pull out or close pass from time to time. Short of waving my arms like a maniac and shouting “please dont hit me!” at every car I see I dont see that changing unless attitudes are properly challenged and red herrings removed from the debates.

    If someone wears a black coat at night I dont really care as long as the lights are up to scratch!

    I’m inclined to agree. I’ve found that motorists tend to be more patient if I use a single very bright light on the front; my theory being that they mistake me for a motorcyclist. If I use several smaller or flashing lights they’ll pull out because I’m easily identified as “only a cyclist”.

    Having the rear of the bike lit up like a Christmas tree is my preferred way of avoiding close passes, though.

    Rob

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    Argos74

    Oh crap. I got double sided
    Oh crap. I got double sided SPDs with no space for reflectors. And now I’ve got used to SPDs, am not going back to flat pedals. SPDs feel safer.

    [url=http://road.cc/content/review/69035-shimano-clickr-pedals-pd-t400]Shimano’s Click’R pedals[/url] would appear to do the job, but ew, they’re ugly. I’ll get busy with reflective ankle bands and tape on the seat stays/shoes as the nights draw in. Is there any case law on this area?

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    Gkam84

    Well, apparently, after
    Well, apparently, after checking with a local policeman months ago, it would make NO difference to the law if I had reflectors or not, because they cannot be seen from behind, that is purely because I ride a recumbent trike.

    #751423
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    SideBurn

    APB wrote:What about a

    APB wrote:
    What about a sticker on the pedals? I don’t have reflectors on my pedals but don’t usually ride at night, but a reflective sticker on the back of them wouldn’t be a hardship.

    The sticker is unlikely to comply with the relevant British Standard so would not comply with the law. But if you had these stickers instead then it would be more difficult to claim contributory negligence against you I think 😕

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    Tilesey

    The reflectors in my Shimano
    The reflectors in my Shimano SPD’s are so small, they might as well not have been there. I am happy with my Speedplays (without reflectors) and lights when riding in the dark on Cotswolds country lanes. Whether that is legal or not…

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    SideBurn

    I am thinking that to reduce
    I am thinking that to reduce any compensation payout you would have to prove that the lack of amber reflectors made a significant enough difference to the outcome?
    I would think that this would be not worth the effort?

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