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Purist Tour de France 2013

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  • June 17, 2013 at 11:50 am #19125
    drheaton

    Just tried to sit down and pick a Purist team for the TdF and it's hard!

    Lots of high value riders, very few very cheap riders and not many bargains to be had, this is going to be a tough race to get right from a fantasy point of view.

    My thinking at the minute is Froome plus 1 high value rider (Sagan/Cavendish or maybe Contador/Voeckler) then some mid and low priced riders but there's not much quality lower down, might have to rethink and go for lots of mid-range guys…

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  • June 26, 2013 at 8:33 am #743127
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    chrisdstripes

    Its tough, right enough. De
    Its tough, right enough. De Gendt and Schleck in the same team is pretty risky! But if the other option includes three guys that are fairly likely to do naff-all, then maybe its worth a punt…

    Plus you can’t have Pinot, Fischer and Mederel in the same team anyway… EDIT – yes you can, I’m just being dense.

    June 26, 2013 at 8:30 am #743125
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    Stumps

    Dr, they were just 2 examples
    Dr, they were just 2 examples rather than list the whole lot mate. I get what you mean though about sacrificing one just to get another who MIGHT do something.

    People have complained about the values but i think its great, we are really having to think about who to put in to get a balanced team. đŸ˜€

    June 26, 2013 at 8:22 am #743123
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    drheaton

    Hmmm, yeah, I don’t
    Hmmm, yeah, I don’t personally see Fuglsang/Kessiakoff scoring that heavily on their ways to top 15/20 placings. Kessiakoff I guess could go after the KoM but that jersey is such a lottery that it’s hard to pick rider with that in mind for a purist team.

    Generally I either like to go all out and pick expensive guys and filler or to have a balanced team with no filler. I’m not a fan of half measures really and picking a ‘slightly’ cheaper expensive guy to pick a slightly more expensive cheap guy doesn’t really make sense to me.

    June 26, 2013 at 8:18 am #743121
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    Stumps

    At 30 credits its a big chunk
    At 30 credits its a big chunk of the budget. For a few credits less you have some cracking riders such as Kessiakoff or Fuglsang which would allow you to bump up Bono to say Rasmussen / Quinziato / Tankink….just a thought for you to ponder.

    June 26, 2013 at 8:12 am #743119
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    drheaton

    Agreed, Mederel and Fischer
    Agreed, Mederel and Fischer (from FDJ) could be break fodder but Bono is a pretty pointless pick as I don’t see Lampre doing anything (other than Cunego trying a big break one day).

    I like the look of Pinot but I’m worried that he’s due a down year this year after doing so well last year. The other option at a similar price would be Rolland who’s a little older and more mature and potentially a more solid choice.

    June 26, 2013 at 8:12 am #743117
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    Stumps

    My team is picked now with 3
    My team is picked now with 3 cheap ds’s, two white jersey / stage winners, 1 podium guy, 1 breakaway and 2 sprinters with 0.2 credits left over.

    I’m not going to change it as its taken me long enough to get to here.

    June 26, 2013 at 8:08 am #743115
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    Stumps

    No chance for De Gendt with
    No chance for De Gendt with the GC. As for Schleck, well you hit the nail on the head there, he could win a stage or pack in after stage 3, we just dont know what his head is like.

    I, personally, would go with team 1 as its the same as mine other than Pinot. Also Mederel (being French) might get into a break or two to show his sponsor off.

    June 26, 2013 at 7:59 am #743113
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    drheaton

    I reckon I’ve narrowed it
    I reckon I’ve narrowed it down, my choice is either:

    1) Pinot, Bono, Fischer, Mederel OR
    2) De Gendt, Schleck, Rasmussen, Gutierrez

    Under 1 I reckon I’d score heavily with Pinot as he’s a GC and White jersey contender plus likely to feature in the mountains but none of the others would score significantly.

    Under 2 De Gendt could do well as he’s targetting the overall in this race and Schleck… well Schleck could do anything. Rasmussen must be targetting the Team and two Individual time trials and Gutierrez is Movistar so likely to pick up points in the TTT too.

    Thoughts?

    June 26, 2013 at 4:17 am #743111
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    chrisdstripes

    I’ve ended up with 5
    I’ve ended up with 5 sprinters and 3 cheap break guys, leaving me 17 credits for a half-decent all-rounder. Still might switch Cav for Froome – feels wrong to have no GC guys at all…

    June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm #743109
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    TERatcliffe26

    Ive gone for one of those,
    Ive gone for one of those, but not gonna tell you who.

    Basically I have 5 guys from my purist team that should do well. Then 1 who is cheap but if on form should do well. 1 guy for the breaks and then 2 3 credit guys

    June 25, 2013 at 8:17 pm #743107
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    drheaton

    Just looking over my team and
    Just looking over my team and I have a tough choice to make. I want a climber who will either compete for the GC, a stage win and get some other placings or one who’ll go after the KoM.

    I’m trying to choose between Pinot, Quintana, Costa and De Gendt. If I pick Pinot I need to drop one of my ten credit guys for a cheap option, if I pick Quintana/Costa I can afford a decent last DS or if I go for De Gendt, one of my favourite riders, I can pick a pretty solid last DS.

    My head says Pinot is a solid choice as he’s also white jersey material, Costa will be backup and Quintana might get to come out and play on one day so Pinot, as a team leader, is an obvious choice but a) it restricts the rest of my team and b) De Gendt is badass.

    June 20, 2013 at 7:14 am #743105
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    ray silvester

    Ghedebrav wrote:chiv30

    Ghedebrav wrote:
    chiv30 wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    chiv30 wrote:
    Ghedebrav wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    Anyone taking a punt on Schleck?

    No, and I’ll probably regret it!

    Yes because he seems to be riding into some form and for 9.2 credits I think he’s worth a punt come the high mountains :/

    If nothing else he surely must end up in a break one day even if he drops out of GC contention, and yes, I agree, he seems to coming into form but 9.2 credits is a lot for a ‘possible break guy’ if that’s what he ends up being.

    I agree with the possible break guy cost but as a purist pick on past rides and knowing what he’s capable of on his day it’s a price I’ll take a punt on :)

    But that’s been my exact reason for picking him in pretty much every purist comp so far – and every time I’d have been better off picking a well-considered domestique choice for less money (especially one from a team like OPQS/Cannondale who are more or less guaranteed to get stage wins). Not doing it again.

    This is the most expensive he’s been all season though?

    As for the Cav/Sagan debate I’ll do what I always do and look at the age……incidentally what’s happening with the intermediate sprint scoring? Last season it was 15 down to 1 for the first 15 riders at each one.

    June 19, 2013 at 9:22 am #743103
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    Ghedebrav

    chiv30 wrote:drheaton

    chiv30 wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    chiv30 wrote:
    Ghedebrav wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    Anyone taking a punt on Schleck?

    No, and I’ll probably regret it!

    Yes because he seems to be riding into some form and for 9.2 credits I think he’s worth a punt come the high mountains :/

    If nothing else he surely must end up in a break one day even if he drops out of GC contention, and yes, I agree, he seems to coming into form but 9.2 credits is a lot for a ‘possible break guy’ if that’s what he ends up being.

    I agree with the possible break guy cost but as a purist pick on past rides and knowing what he’s capable of on his day it’s a price I’ll take a punt on :)

    But that’s been my exact reason for picking him in pretty much every purist comp so far – and every time I’d have been better off picking a well-considered domestique choice for less money (especially one from a team like OPQS/Cannondale who are more or less guaranteed to get stage wins). Not doing it again.

    June 18, 2013 at 9:14 pm #743101
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    chiv30

    drheaton wrote:chiv30

    drheaton wrote:
    chiv30 wrote:
    Ghedebrav wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    Anyone taking a punt on Schleck?

    No, and I’ll probably regret it!

    Yes because he seems to be riding into some form and for 9.2 credits I think he’s worth a punt come the high mountains :/

    If nothing else he surely must end up in a break one day even if he drops out of GC contention, and yes, I agree, he seems to coming into form but 9.2 credits is a lot for a ‘possible break guy’ if that’s what he ends up being.

    I agree with the possible break guy cost but as a purist pick on past rides and knowing what he’s capable of on his day it’s a price I’ll take a punt on đŸ™‚

    June 18, 2013 at 8:24 pm #743099
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    drheaton

    chiv30 wrote:Ghedebrav

    chiv30 wrote:
    Ghedebrav wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    Anyone taking a punt on Schleck?

    No, and I’ll probably regret it!

    Yes because he seems to be riding into some form and for 9.2 credits I think he’s worth a punt come the high mountains :/

    If nothing else he surely must end up in a break one day even if he drops out of GC contention, and yes, I agree, he seems to coming into form but 9.2 credits is a lot for a ‘possible break guy’ if that’s what he ends up being.

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