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Vuelta al Pais Vasco – Stage 4

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  • April 4, 2013 at 6:42 am #18401
    drheaton

    Tough decisions to make today, will Txurruka go in the break again?  Will the same people be racing for the win or will the slightly easier finale make for a different selection.

    My transfer decisions are basically which 2 of 3 riders do I drop for which 2 of 3 I want?

    I can either drop Fuglsang and Barguil for Ulissi and Didier or another sub 6 credit rider or I can drop Peraud and Barguil for Ulissi and Txurruka.

    I don't really want to drop Peraud and I'm worried that Txurruka pretty much has the jersey sewn up now so won't go in the break today but he's a guaranteed 10 points whatever happens.

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  • April 4, 2013 at 9:51 am #725779
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    drheaton

    I’ve got my finger hovering
    I’ve got my finger hovering over the transfer button, tempted by a Spilak for Txurruka switch today. It’ll cost me 10 points in penalties but I’ll get a guaranteed 10 points from Txurruka.

    It’s risky and if he doesn’t go in the break I’m likely to lose 10-15 points on it but if he does go in the break I could be up 20+ points 😕

    April 4, 2013 at 9:43 am #725777
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    livestrongnick

    one change today brought in
    one change today brought in betancurt, considered dropping fugslang and Henao for porte and Talansky but holding back for ITT :B 😕
    Sticking with Txurraka think he will go again today!

    April 4, 2013 at 9:05 am #725775
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    TERatcliffe26

    I took Talanksy out for Henao
    I took Talanksy out for Henao as my plan for the ITT is to pick up Peraud and Martin so couldn’t afford anyway, so there is logic in my madness

    I also left in Fuglsang as I think he will top 5 in tomorrows stage and for the ITT now he seems to have some kind of form back

    Im worried about dropping Cardoso now 😕 :/

    April 4, 2013 at 9:02 am #725773
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    drheaton

    chrisdstripes wrote:drheaton

    chrisdstripes wrote:
    drheaton wrote:
    I’ve brought in Cardoso expecting him to get in the break and potentially protected Txurruka’s lead in the KoM. I’ve also swapped Fuglsang for Ulissi.

    I see Talansky and Porte doing more today as the final climb is steadier and not nearly as steep as yesterday, I also see Porte as still being the main man for Sky purely because Henao will get destroyed in the final TT.


    We certainly differ in our perception of Henao’s time-trialling ability drh!

    Henao started the last stage of the Volta Algrave top of the GC, after a 35km TT on the last stage he dropped clean out of the top 10 losing over 3 minutes to Tony Martin and 2 minutes to Westra who I’m using as my Porte/Talansky type benchmark.

    The final Pais Vasco TT is 24km and hilly so it’s likely the gap will be smaller but I still see Porte and Talansky putting a minute or two into Henao.

    April 4, 2013 at 8:52 am #725771
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    chrisdstripes

    drheaton wrote:I’ve brought

    drheaton wrote:
    I’ve brought in Cardoso expecting him to get in the break and potentially protected Txurruka’s lead in the KoM. I’ve also swapped Fuglsang for Ulissi.

    I see Talansky and Porte doing more today as the final climb is steadier and not nearly as steep as yesterday, I also see Porte as still being the main man for Sky purely because Henao will get destroyed in the final TT.


    We certainly differ in our perception of Henao’s time-trialling ability drh!

    April 4, 2013 at 8:28 am #725769
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    drheaton

    I’ve brought in Cardoso
    I’ve brought in Cardoso expecting him to get in the break and potentially protected Txurruka’s lead in the KoM. I’ve also swapped Fuglsang for Ulissi.

    I see Talansky and Porte doing more today as the final climb is steadier and not nearly as steep as yesterday, I also see Porte as still being the main man for Sky purely because Henao will get destroyed in the final TT.

    April 4, 2013 at 8:19 am #725767
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    TERatcliffe26

    Ive dropped Talansky and
    Ive dropped Talansky and Cardoso for Henao and Betancurt, so Ive got Pineau down for todays break

    April 4, 2013 at 8:05 am #725765
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    chrisdstripes

    I remember doing really badly
    I remember doing really badly on this stage last year (it was a very open field, with people like Nordhaug and Kiserlovski doing well, and Tony Martin actually), and again when they went up it in the Vuelta, so hoping for a better result today.

    And I doubt I’ll be able to resist the temptation of a random breakaway pick tomorrow, so I need to build up a bit of a cushion!

    April 4, 2013 at 8:04 am #725763
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    obutterwick

    Don’t think TJ will do much
    Don’t think TJ will do much until the ITT. Even then, Talansky could be the better option.

    April 4, 2013 at 7:53 am #725761
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    rcorbin

    I had both Contador and TJ
    I had both Contador and TJ before yesterday’s stage but dropped bertie for a few cheaper riders, should have dropped TJ.

    April 4, 2013 at 7:44 am #725759
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    drheaton

    At this point in time you may
    At this point in time you may as well keep him in for the TT but I think he’s overpriced for what he’ll do in the mountains, that’s why I went for Contador instead.

    April 4, 2013 at 7:41 am #725757
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    rcorbin

    My team
    Giampaolo Caruso
    My team

    Giampaolo Caruso (KAT)
    Richie Porte (SKY)
    Amets Txurruka (CJR)
    Tejay van Garderen (BMC)
    Nairo Quintana (MOV)
    Rob Ruijgh (VCD)
    Andy Schleck (RSN)
    Samuel Sanchez (EUS)
    Sergio Luis Henao (SKY)

    Really don’t know whether to keep TJ in or not.

    April 4, 2013 at 7:20 am #725755
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    drheaton

    Hmmm, discouting the last
    Hmmm, discouting the last climb today which is pretty much a summit finish there are 3 cat 2s and a cat 1. Tomorrow there are 5 cat 3s, 4 cat 2s and a cat 1, assuming that a break would be caught before the last couple of climbs which are near the finish that’s still a hell of a lot of mountains tomorrow so it screams breakaway.

    I may leave Txurruka out today and look to pull in a couple of breakaway riders for tomorrow.

    The question is, do I pick up Didier today or Cardoso?

    April 4, 2013 at 7:13 am #725753
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    chrisdstripes

    I guess Txurruka is the
    I guess Txurruka is the conundrum – anyone who already has him will probably keep him, as its a guaranteed 10 points even if he doesn’t go in the break. But if you don’t have him, is it worth bringing him in? My wild guess is that he won’t go today, but will tomorrow, just to make sure. Which would still make it worth bringing him in, I guess…

    April 4, 2013 at 7:10 am #725751
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    obutterwick

    Ulissi, Didier and Henao in
    Ulissi, Didier and Henao in for Cunego, Gavazzi and Faria Da Costa.

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