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April 4, 2013 at 6:42 am #18401
drheaton
Tough decisions to make today, will Txurruka go in the break again? Will the same people be racing for the win or will the slightly easier finale make for a different selection.
My transfer decisions are basically which 2 of 3 riders do I drop for which 2 of 3 I want?
I can either drop Fuglsang and Barguil for Ulissi and Didier or another sub 6 credit rider or I can drop Peraud and Barguil for Ulissi and Txurruka.
I don't really want to drop Peraud and I'm worried that Txurruka pretty much has the jersey sewn up now so won't go in the break today but he's a guaranteed 10 points whatever happens.
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ray silvester
ray silvester wrote:TERatcliffe26 wrote:drheaton wrote:Dropped Spilak, Barguil and Fuglsang, drafted in Cardoso, Txurruka and UlissiContador
Peraud
Porte
Sanchez
Quintana
Ulissi
Cardoso
Txurruka
BetancurtIn the end decided that Spilak was boring and steady enough to get rid of, can’t see him getting more than 15 points today. Plan is to keep it broadly the same tomorrow then bring in Martin, Talansky and a couple of others and drop Contador, maybe Quintana and possibly Sanchez.
Drop Contador, really?
Quintana had a good ITT recently too (Paris-Nice Col D’Eze)3rd behind Porte/Talansky and beating Tejay,Kloden,Peraud,Chavanel,Coppel,Menchov,Velits and Spilak amongst others¬!!
Exactly my thinking too 😕 Contador out and bring in guys mentioned above…..only had contador for mountain points don’t intend on keeping him for TT!
ray silvester
ray silvester wrote:TERatcliffe26 wrote:drheaton wrote:Dropped Spilak, Barguil and Fuglsang, drafted in Cardoso, Txurruka and UlissiContador
Peraud
Porte
Sanchez
Quintana
Ulissi
Cardoso
Txurruka
BetancurtIn the end decided that Spilak was boring and steady enough to get rid of, can’t see him getting more than 15 points today. Plan is to keep it broadly the same tomorrow then bring in Martin, Talansky and a couple of others and drop Contador, maybe Quintana and possibly Sanchez.
Drop Contador, really?
Quintana had a good ITT recently too (Paris-Nice Col D’Eze)3rd behind Porte/Talansky and beating Tejay,Kloden,Peraud,Chavanel,Coppel,Menchov,Velits and Spilak amongst others¬!!
Yes but that was totally different, 9km up a hill is what Qunitana is good at, not 24km on rolling terrain
ray silvester
TERatcliffe26 wrote:drheaton
TERatcliffe26 wrote:drheaton wrote:Dropped Spilak, Barguil and Fuglsang, drafted in Cardoso, Txurruka and UlissiContador
Peraud
Porte
Sanchez
Quintana
Ulissi
Cardoso
Txurruka
BetancurtIn the end decided that Spilak was boring and steady enough to get rid of, can’t see him getting more than 15 points today. Plan is to keep it broadly the same tomorrow then bring in Martin, Talansky and a couple of others and drop Contador, maybe Quintana and possibly Sanchez.
Drop Contador, really?
Quintana had a good ITT recently too (Paris-Nice Col D’Eze)3rd behind Porte/Talansky and beating Tejay,Kloden,Peraud,Chavanel,Coppel,Menchov,Velits and Spilak amongst others¬!!
I’ll be keeping Betancurt,
I’ll be keeping Betancurt, possibly Txurruka if I can afford to then bringing some of the mid-price TTers at around 15-20 credits. Dropping Contador allows me to do that. In fact I may not bother with Talansky/TJVG if I think I can spread the credits around better but it’ll depend alot on GC points available.Also, I don’t want to take too much of a hit on penalty transfers.
I agree, there aren’t many sub-10 points riders worth picking for the TT. I think that’s just the way the values fall on these short races. One TT stage in amongst 21 in a Grand Tour means it’s has less weight and therefore TTers would be cheaper, one TT stage in 6 means it’s considerably more important.
drheaton wrote:TERatcliffe26
drheaton wrote:TERatcliffe26 wrote:Drop Contador, really?Possibly, he’s my most expensive rider and I don’t know what form he’s in for the TT, Martin though is a banker and TJVG is a good bet, as is Talansky. Keeping Contador means I can’t bring in all of those guys.
Yeah Contador may be up there in the top 10 but since coming back he hasn’t look as good as he was in his beefed up days.
I see your point but lets see how much either Tejay or Talansky loose today, I can’t really afford half of them anyway haha, think im gonna play it safe and keep Txurruka and his safe points, but we shall see.
Talansky may beat Contador, but what Talansky finishes 5th, Contador 8th maybe, contador higher in the GC 😕
Top 3 for the ITT I reckon will be Martin, Porte and then its very tight and could be anyone.
Also I can’t see any cheaper riders to shove in that even have a chance, so will keep Betancurt, maybe get rid of spilak, and put Serry in for Pineau as he is cheaper and for his 5 point bonus
TERatcliffe26 wrote:Drop
TERatcliffe26 wrote:Drop Contador, really?Possibly, he’s my most expensive rider and I don’t know what form he’s in for the TT, Martin though is a banker and TJVG is a good bet, as is Talansky. Keeping Contador means I can’t bring in all of those guys.
Yeah Contador may be up there in the top 10 but since coming back he hasn’t look as good as he was in his beefed up days.
EDIT: Some stats, this season Contador has raced two TTs as far as I can tell, a 19.2km one at the Tour San Luis and a short 9.2km one at Tirreno-Adriatico.
San Luis, Contador was 13th, a minute down on winner Svein Tuft. Tirreno, Contador was 17th, 30 seconds down on Tony Martin.
You can’t really take anything from either of those except that Contador is no longer capable of ripping up TTs as well as mountains. He should top 10 because there aren’t the same depth of TT specialists in Pais Vasco but Martin will certainly be worth more points than Contador.
drheaton wrote:Dropped
drheaton wrote:Dropped Spilak, Barguil and Fuglsang, drafted in Cardoso, Txurruka and UlissiContador
Peraud
Porte
Sanchez
Quintana
Ulissi
Cardoso
Txurruka
BetancurtIn the end decided that Spilak was boring and steady enough to get rid of, can’t see him getting more than 15 points today. Plan is to keep it broadly the same tomorrow then bring in Martin, Talansky and a couple of others and drop Contador, maybe Quintana and possibly Sanchez.
Drop Contador, really?
chrisdstripes
drheaton wrote:I guess
drheaton wrote:I guess destroyed is fairly strong but I see a 2 or 3 minute loss to fellow GC ‘contenders’ as being destroyed really. It’s enough to drop you right out of contention in these short races and I think Henao may struggle to stay in the top 10.My main point was that whatever Henao did yesterday and does today, as long as Porte can stay within a minute of him, he’s team leader. If Porte manages to pull off the win then it’ll be mightly impressive seeing as Sky only brought 6 riders.
Definitely agree with that, Porte is Team leader, and with Sky down to 6, Henao may even have to work for him today in the last 5km, despite wearing the leader’s jersey. Still think he’ll have a good TT tho 😉Dropped Spilak, Barguil and
Dropped Spilak, Barguil and Fuglsang, drafted in Cardoso, Txurruka and UlissiContador
Peraud
Porte
Sanchez
Quintana
Ulissi
Cardoso
Txurruka
BetancurtIn the end decided that Spilak was boring and steady enough to get rid of, can’t see him getting more than 15 points today. Plan is to keep it broadly the same tomorrow then bring in Martin, Talansky and a couple of others and drop Contador, maybe Quintana and possibly Sanchez.
I bought Spilak in for
I bought Spilak in for Elissonde and banked a transfer…..I’ll only be bringing in guys who can time trial now anyway.Contador
Porte
Cunego
Spilak
Sanchez
Fuglsang
Txurruka
Quintana
Schleck
obutterwick
drheaton wrote:Are you sure?
drheaton wrote:Are you sure? Official start is 13:25 local time.No, but deadline for transfers was reached.
I guess destroyed is fairly
I guess destroyed is fairly strong but I see a 2 or 3 minute loss to fellow GC ‘contenders’ as being destroyed really. It’s enough to drop you right out of contention in these short races and I think Henao may struggle to stay in the top 10.My main point was that whatever Henao did yesterday and does today, as long as Porte can stay within a minute of him, he’s team leader. If Porte manages to pull off the win then it’ll be mightly impressive seeing as Sky only brought 6 riders.
drheaton wrote:chrisdstripes
drheaton wrote:chrisdstripes wrote:drheaton wrote:I’ve brought in Cardoso expecting him to get in the break and potentially protected Txurruka’s lead in the KoM. I’ve also swapped Fuglsang for Ulissi.I see Talansky and Porte doing more today as the final climb is steadier and not nearly as steep as yesterday, I also see Porte as still being the main man for Sky purely because Henao will get destroyed in the final TT.
We certainly differ in our perception of Henao’s time-trialling ability drh!Henao started the last stage of the Volta Algrave top of the GC, after a 35km TT on the last stage he dropped clean out of the top 10 losing over 3 minutes to Tony Martin and 2 minutes to Westra who I’m using as my Porte/Talansky type benchmark.
The final Pais Vasco TT is 24km and hilly so it’s likely the gap will be smaller but I still see Porte and Talansky putting a minute or two into Henao.
Yeah – not saying I’ll pick him, but I think he’s in better shape now than he was in Algarve, and it is a hilly TT. I just thought “destroyed” was a strong word – I think he might surprise a few people on Saturday…Are you sure? Official start
Are you sure? Official start is 13:25 local time.obutterwick
And we’re off…!
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