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  • February 26, 2013 at 5:42 am #18069
    STEVESPRO 79

    Is there really any need to keep adding these new races at the last minute…..Ok so we lost KBK due to bad weather…so what…it happens….Paris-Nice is about to start and yet fringe races are being added all the time…
    People have paid money to enter a competition where the goal posts are continually being moved and in my opinion its getting too much…
    We enter these things because we are competitive and so at times you sort of feel obliged to enter races that to be honest if they are not on Eurosport people dont really give a damn about,just so that you dont lose ground on the season long competition…
    Its just wrong….

    This game used to be fantastic,,,but Im afraid that some people are over complicating it to relieve their own boredom….

    At the start of the season once the designated races are picked that should be it…

    Well at least thats my opinion anyway…. 🙁

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  • February 27, 2013 at 4:40 pm #718923
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    sanderville

    TheHatter wrote:my preference

    TheHatter wrote:
    my preference would be for races that are televised

    I think prizes should be restricted to races that are on mainstream TV such as Eurosport, Murdoch, ITV, etc., just because it is easier to follow and invest the mental effort in something that is more fun because you can see it. But that’s probably already the case – I can’t be arsed reading the rules.

    Some of the races so far have been difficult to get coverage of – either geoblocking stops me or the feeds are just so crap, e.g. the Omloop where the blurred and stuttering video gave me a headache.

    But the fact that a lot of these early comps don’t really count for anything means it’s just extra fun if you can be bothered. I paid the premium just so the road.cc mob could afford to spend the time on running the game, I know I’m never going to win anything because the riders I choose are all treacherous vermin who would rather lose than earn me points.

    February 27, 2013 at 12:34 pm #718921
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    TERatcliffe26

    Ghedebrav wrote:TBH I like

    Ghedebrav wrote:
    TBH I like the overall table though. Me and a mate are both looking be top 100 come the season end (N.B. probably won’t happen), and it adds an extra layer to the competition as a result.

    If you aren’t interested in it, don’t look at it :)

    I don’t think thats quite the angle people are looking at though. I want to finish high overall, but the problem is that the overall contains all races, so to stay high you must play all races, and this is not convenient for all to do. And as we don’t want to reduce the number of races as that also keeps people involved, we want a situation where they don’t feel obliged to play all races if they don’t want to. So I actually like Drheaton’s idea in a way, but id still say the majority of the game is WT races.

    But we are learning as we go along, as we have introduced a fair few new races compared to previous years, so getting the balance on everything right straight away was always going to be difficult.

    But the fact there is no prizes for the overall, does reduce the pressure on people to play.

    February 27, 2013 at 12:03 pm #718919
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    Ghedebrav

    TBH I like the overall table
    TBH I like the overall table though. Me and a mate are both looking be top 100 come the season end (N.B. probably won’t happen), and it adds an extra layer to the competition as a result.

    If you aren’t interested in it, don’t look at it 🙂

    February 27, 2013 at 11:44 am #718917
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    drheaton

    I’d agree with what’s been
    I’d agree with what’s been said elsewhere, that removing or restricting the ‘overall’ league would help people stop thinking of it as a season long competition and start thinking of it as a set of different separate races you can drop in and out of.

    Just including the World Tour races in the overall might work as these are also the ones with most coverage.

    Then people can pick and choose which of the extra races they take part in without suffering in the overall.

    February 27, 2013 at 9:37 am #718915
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    Stumps

    Dave Atkinson wrote:Quote:

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    You could even go as far as removing the total overall?

    yeah, i can just imagine the silence on this forum if we were to do that. 😕

    we’re not ‘continually moving the goalposts’ anyway, we’re just trying to make the early classics – which has been a learning experience – as interesting a comp as possible. one race got cancelled, so we put another one in. and one we couldn’t get information for, so we swapped it out. There’s no prizes for this one. It’s not like anyone’s being done out of a bike.

    i’m aware that people are paying money to play, which is why we’re trying to make the experience as good as we can. we won’t always do everything right and you can’t please everyone anyway. but hey, at least you can talk to us, eh?

    Dave, not that it makes any difference, but i’m really happy we have more races. It is time consuming but as you said there are no prizes so it means you can mess about with teams and pick people who might do well instead of going for the usual suspects. Keep it up 🙂

    February 27, 2013 at 8:39 am #718913
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    Cirage

    Not Impressed , not
    Not Impressed 😕 , not impressed by the original post. I think it’s great that you are flexible and looking after all followers, I am not saying you just ignore these self centered individuals, after all if they do not want to partake in a particular event, they do have the option of missing it out. You should be congratulated for finding the time and effort to provide for all.

    February 27, 2013 at 7:33 am #718911
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    Ghedebrav

    Really enjoying it so far, no
    Really enjoying it so far, no complaints 😀

    February 26, 2013 at 9:53 pm #718909
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    Alan Tullett

    TheHatter wrote:my preference

    TheHatter wrote:
    my preference would be for races that are televised – I appreciate not everyone has eurosport but it makes the racing more enjoyable if you have a ‘vested interest’.

    I will be glad when I can see something live, but to be honest the cycling season is only just starting. If the fantasy game began with Paris-Nice I wouldn’t complain.

    February 26, 2013 at 6:34 pm #718907
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    TheHatter

    my preference would be for
    my preference would be for races that are televised – I appreciate not everyone has eurosport but it makes the racing more enjoyable if you have a ‘vested interest’.

    February 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm #718905
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    northstar

    Dave Atkinson wrote:There’s

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    There’s no prizes for this one.

    Say what? 😮 😉

    February 26, 2013 at 2:53 pm #718903
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    dave atkinson

    Quote: You could even go as

    You could even go as far as removing the total overall?

    yeah, i can just imagine the silence on this forum if we were to do that. 😕

    we’re not ‘continually moving the goalposts’ anyway, we’re just trying to make the early classics – which has been a learning experience – as interesting a comp as possible. one race got cancelled, so we put another one in. and one we couldn’t get information for, so we swapped it out. There’s no prizes for this one. It’s not like anyone’s being done out of a bike.

    i’m aware that people are paying money to play, which is why we’re trying to make the experience as good as we can. we won’t always do everything right and you can’t please everyone anyway. but hey, at least you can talk to us, eh?

    February 26, 2013 at 2:32 pm #718901
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    cherrypicked

    I think there is quite an

    I think there is quite an attraction to the overall, which is at least part of the cause of this issue.

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    from the spring classics there’ll be a separate overall table for the non-premium races only.
    This is good and maybe this will help people target this as the overall, and just target other competitions of interest. You could even go as far as removing the total overall?

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    there seems to be a reasonable demand for the smaller comps; 93% of the premium players have entered teams for the early classics.
    I probably wouldn’t have bothered with the early classics if it wasn’t part of the overall. If it wasn’t part of the overall, then a better indication of how many people would get involved might be how many got involved the competitions that were run in a forum thread last year, which from memory was generally up to 10. Well, that is probably exaggerating the other way a little…

    I completely agree with
    STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
    People have paid money to enter a competition where the goal posts are continually being moved and in my opinion its getting too much…

    The last point at which a competition should be changed is before the series is opened.

    It is also obvious to me that a lot of people are out there saying nothing (those who don’t necessarily have the time to write comments), and it is only the voices of those who have a lot of time to hang out on the forum who are adding to the debate.

    February 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm #718899
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    dave atkinson

    you won’t be best pleased
    you won’t be best pleased that we’ve made another change to the early classics then, either 😕

    February 26, 2013 at 1:05 pm #718897
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    TheHatter

    Dave Atkinson wrote: you

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    you should be able to dip in and out and do the competitions you want to.

    Totally agree – managing two teams throughout the year is way too time time intensive.

    February 26, 2013 at 11:16 am #718895
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    dave atkinson

    from the spring classics
    from the spring classics there’ll be a separate overall table for the non-premium races only. so you can just do that if you don’t fancy the smaller races. there seems to be a reasonable demand for the smaller comps; 93% of the premium players have entered teams for the early classics.

    to be honest we’re trying to move the game focus away from the overall as much as we can. it’s not like fantasy football; you should be able to dip in and out and do the competitions you want to.

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