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July 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm #16408
adholman
I notice that the overall winning Tour de France team has 2 riders that were not on the original list of 198 riders for that race.
Am I correct in saying that this could be the team managers strategy – to pick a couple of very cheap riders (before the final list was fixed) and accept that they will score zero, and count on getting enough points from the remaining 7 riders??
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Mrdowen
With this kind of attitude
With this kind of attitude I’m not paying to be premium next year.Best of luck Dave.
Gkam84
All the rules are defined
All the rules are defined here http://fantasy.road.cc/howtoAn incomplete team is NOT bending the rules, I played purist and had 3 riders who didn’t finish. Thats no different from using riders not in the race in my eyes.
Using whatever riders to make your team is all part of the game. If you don’t like it…..fair enough.
drheaton wrote:Boo! For one day races surely there’s no excuse to not picking actual riders!There is in the Olympics, because we have a fair idea who’s going to be at the finish first, so to fit 4/5 of them in, I need to use cheapo DS’s 😉
therealsmallboy
Hi guys,
I’m the second
Hi guys,I’m the second placed player. I won the kit and am pleased with that, but on the day that Voeckler got all of those points, I had Kessiakoff. I wanted Voeckler, but I couldn’t afford him because I didn’t know I could use non TdF riders to give me a credit as it were…. And yeah I am pretty miffed, because I played the game fair and square….
If the rules are changed, without awarding me the bike, the guy below me the kit and the guy below him the helmet to comply with what’s been said here I’ll be even more annoyed, because it would only admit that it’s not right.
Notwithstanding this, the rules need to be clarified, because I didn’t know about this and have been playing for two years now. As far as I was concerned we were playing a TdF competition, for TdF prizes, with TdF riders. There should at least be something on the ‘how to play’ section.
In any event, I won the BMC team kit fair and square and can sleep happily at night.
Therealsmallboy
10 stages with an
10 stages with an “incomplete” team is bending the rules. This is not a big problem in a free game. I’ve paid to be premium and I feel slightly cheated. As regards to reading the forum for tips – all rules should be noted clearly at the beginning.If things don’t change I’ll be playing free next year. The “old boys forum” will not be getting my money.
Alan Tullett
dave_atkinson wrote:drheaton
dave_atkinson wrote:drheaton wrote:is it possible to limit players to picking actual participating riders once the tour is underway? Maybe something to add to the “next year” list?probably, and one to add to the list to look at in the future. although i’d add that the chap that won did so because of the scoring riders he picked, not the non-scoring ones. not much help getting Connor whassisface in if you don’t then go and pick voeckler on the day he darts off the front for a three-figure haul…
I was just going to say he scored 96, which is what I remembered from looking at the score at the time, then I checked and saw it was 100. Did some points get transferred from another rider because my overall total didn’t change? I think they must have come from Kessiakoff. His score seems lower than I remember. Is Tommy V the first rider to score 100 points on a stage?
drheaton wrote:Agreed, it was
drheaton wrote:Agreed, it was risky and hats off to him, but there’s no denying that he wouldn’t have been able to pick that team without ‘bending’ the rules. If, like everyone else, he picked listed DSs at a minimum of 2.7 credits, he’d have had to have one of Voeckler/Kessiakoff and that would have made the difference over 2nd place overall.What he’s done is within the rules and he still needed to pick the right guys, but I still think the rules need changing. If I’d ‘played fair’ and finished second because I couldn’t afford Kessiakoff, Voeckler or Pinot because I had listed DSs I’d be pretty pissed.
I scored higher than the actual winner on both those stages (16 and 17) so picking cheap riders didn’t enable him to have the best team as far as star riders were concerned. The best star combination on both that was affordable was Froome, Kessiakoff, Voeckler, Sorenson for 16 and change Sorenson to Valverde for 17, which is close what I did. I had Wiggins but it wasn’t significant. In fact if I’d had Izagirre, who is cheaper, instead of Urtasun before those stages I would have won both stages and scored about nearly 50 points more so it was possible to score nearly 100 points more with all 9 riders in the TdF.
In fact If I’d had Izagirre from the start and not Vichot I would have got close to winning the whole damn thing, combined with not dropping Sagan inbetween 13 and 15 (not bitter mind).
It’s a clever ruse but if it’s within the rules, fair enough. However, it might be worth thinking about changing it for next year so people not aware of this trick don’t lose out and I use this forum a lot and didn’t realise it, but I do now for the Vuelta 😉 😉
drheaton
Boo! For one day races
Boo! For one day races surely there’s no excuse to not picking actual riders!I was used last year to great
I was used last year to great effect and again this year. Its not bending the rules in any way. It has been openly talked about on here a number of times. So people knew about it, its not hidden and I shall be using it through the olympics 😀Agreed, it was risky and hats
Agreed, it was risky and hats off to him, but there’s no denying that he wouldn’t have been able to pick that team without ‘bending’ the rules. If, like everyone else, he picked listed DSs at a minimum of 2.7 credits, he’d have had to have one of Voeckler/Kessiakoff and that would have made the difference over 2nd place overall.What he’s done is within the rules and he still needed to pick the right guys, but I still think the rules need changing. If I’d ‘played fair’ and finished second because I couldn’t afford Kessiakoff, Voeckler or Pinot because I had listed DSs I’d be pretty pissed.
dave atkinson
drheaton wrote:is it possible
drheaton wrote:is it possible to limit players to picking actual participating riders once the tour is underway? Maybe something to add to the “next year” list?probably, and one to add to the list to look at in the future. although i’d add that the chap that won did so because of the scoring riders he picked, not the non-scoring ones. not much help getting Connor whassisface in if you don’t then go and pick voeckler on the day he darts off the front for a three-figure haul…
I said, don’t make it force
I said, don’t make it force you to swap out abandoned riders, and anyway, there’s loads of cheap stars now unlike last year where you had to have a sprinter at all times now you can pick a Zubeldia who’s cheap as chips. Also, this wasn’t about only being able to afford 2.3 credit DSs because one of your guys dropped out, this is tactically bringing in non-riders in order to use those credits elsewhere.It worked fine last year,
It worked fine last year, same again just now. No need for a change. That just limits people to certain riders and everyone will be stuck with the same top guys because thats all they can afford, boring.Also, say your rider worth 2.5 drops out of the race, but the next cheapest is 3.1, but you only have 0.3 left. You would HAVE to drop someone else, no going to work or be fair. Things are fine as they are 😉
I definitely think that a
I definitely think that a rule or game change that only allows you to bring in active riders would help, you don’t want to be penalised if one of your riders drops out or forced to transfer our inactive riders first but only being able to bring in those currently riding (or even those on the last start list) would prevent this kind of thing happening.Landbouwkrediet was the team,
Landbouwkrediet was the team, raced in a dark green aswell, thats all I remembered.rcorbin wrote:Hans
rcorbin wrote:Hans DekkerThats the dude, he was one of the most popular riders last season whenever there were mountains in a stage 😉
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