If you were Chris Froome

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    millskid

    would you consider leaving sky? He is 27 and could win the Tour De France. However, while Wiggins 32 (could easily have 3 more years) is around Froome wont get the chance to go for it. Last year he should have won the vuelta, however due to team orders he had to wait for Wiggins.

    If I were him, I would have a meeting at the end of the season and set out my ambitions. I.E team leader for at least the Giro.

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  • #691263
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    Gkam84

    Nothing to do with the time
    Nothing to do with the time trail. Its all about his climbing, He’s a better climber than Wiggo and nothing to do with “Wiggo climbs at his own pace and keeps it steady” Froome could leave a few of the “big” guys standing on a climb if he was given a chance to do it

    #691261
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    samjackson54

    ‘obviously froome seems
    ‘obviously froome seems stronger on uphill sections’ is what I should have written, apologies to paulfg42.

    #691259
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    paulfg42

    “chat coming out of France”
    “chat coming out of France” B-)

    “Obviously Froome seems stronger”

    Not that obvious, or did he ride well within his limits on the time trial on team orders?

    #691257
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    samjackson54

    I think it makes sense to
    I think it makes sense to have Froome working for Wiggins in the rest of this tour, with Wiggins two minutes up, but obviously Froome seems stronger, if he hadnt lost time with a puncture etc… I wrote some thoughts in my blog, check it out if you like, I only started it yesterday đŸ™‚ ..Link is below my name I think. Should feature somewhere down there?

    #691255
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    Anonymous

    My 2p worth
    After the Vuelta

    My 2p worth

    After the Vuelta Sky said they weren’t surprised by Froome, and that Froome had just made the breakthrough to the level they believed he could perform at. Just like Brad did in 2009, pre Sky. That’s more than just fitness or talent, but also the mental strength to push on and believe you can do it.

    2010 was a bad year for Brad and Sky, similarly 2012 until now has not been great for Froome. It’s fantastic though to see the Vuelta wasn’t a fluke or form performance, and that Froome has the talent to be a GT winner.

    I think 27 is a great age to be showing this kind of riding. Given that TdF winners average 29, and Cadel set a new record for age last year, I don’t think there’s a great hurry for Froome to be pushing and a 3 year deal may well include terms like ‘if we win the Tour, you’ll have the opportunity to lead the team in a GT in the next 2 seasons’.

    Team Sky’s charter was originally to get a clean British win in the TdF within 5 years. That could be this year (cross fingers). If it is, then there will doubtless be new goals defined. Until it has been done though, all else is a dstraction, though BC’s goals need to be accommodated too (Olympic golds). What Team Sky’s new objectives might be are the interesting things to me, after this tour and how Brailsford thinks he can achieve them. Certainly Sky are bringing on talent that will be peaking beyond 2 years time with the younger riders (Dowsettt, Stannard, Swift, Thomas, Uran. Kennaugh and so on and so on), so I suspect 5 years was just a time box to define success or failure to the money men.

    Next year I strongly believe if Froome can carry some form and health through the winter then Brailsford will be looking at letting Froome lead a GT, probably with Giro.

    And yes, the Tour is a Team thing, but you can see from Cadel, if you haven’t got the legs to stay on, no team mate can get you home. Brad has the legs, and is using them how he knows best, tempo riding and conservative, not aggressively burning energy that he will need next week. When he has needed to, he has gone to the front or upped the pace, but only when necessary. Though I suspect leading out EBH was pure enjoyment to be in yellow, feeling good and being a grateful team leader.
    Tempo riding might not be as good TV as an old fashioned high mountains 1 on 1 slug fest, but I like the results. Don’t worry Andy and Alberto will resume normal service next year.

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    lob

    Can’t see Wiggo doing the
    Can’t see Wiggo doing the Vuelta given comments reported elsewhere by him. Froome will have many more chances to win GT’s including the TdF, and sure Dave B already realises this and will be planning for it.

    Hope other teams including Sky take it to Saxo/Contador in the Vuelta as can’t see Andy being fit enough to challenge, if he takes any part in it.

    Wiggo to stay as #1 for this TdF unless something happens to him.

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    Gkam84

    Contract renewal time?? He
    Contract renewal time?? He only just signed a 3 year contract after the Vuelta last year, so he’s still got over 2 years to go on that.

    Wiggins is no better a rider than Froome, as will be shown in the future and if chat coming out of France is anything to go by, maybe even by the end of the tour đŸ˜‰

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    paulfg42

    A lot of hot air based on
    A lot of hot air based on Froome apparently pulling away on one climb? Wiggins is the better rider. If I was Froome, I’d make sure I used all my ability to support the team leader so that when contract renewal time comes up I’d get offered a much improved contract. And put a bit of trust in Brailsford to recognise and take advantage of my strengths.

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    Manx Rider

    I think bashthebox has a
    I think bashthebox has a point, perhaps we are reading to much into Froome’s attack. We all know Wiggins is not a jumpy rider and Froome can be. That is how Sky are winning this tour, riding threshold up the climbs and having a bigger threshold than the competition, that is Wiggins strength. It would have been interesting to see if Froome had carried on if Wiggins would have clawed them back, we will never know.

    I wonder whether now a good Sky tactic would be for Froome to shadow Nibali (though I guess he would struggle on the descents). If Nibali engineers a great attack Froome will stay with him and ahead of him on gc and if Nibali attacks and fails Wiggins strengthens his position in yellow.

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    livestrongnick

    Would be good if Sky could
    Would be good if Sky could send a 100% climbing team(Wiggo,FROOME, Uran, Heano, Nordhuag, Flecha ETC) to Vuelta this year and leave Cav at home, really wanna see Contandor put under pressure đŸ‘¿ he’s gonna be like a wild horse stuck in a box. Because it’s gonna be very boring otherwise (|:

    #691243
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    Gkam84

    Are you actually watching the
    Are you actually watching the live or highlights bashthebox??

    Wiggo isn’t doing all this dragging back. He’s following guys like EBH, Porte, Rogers and Froome up and down the stages, They set the tempo for him, he just has to keep pace…..

    Omega, I think Froome has shown enough loyalty in a few different races now to Wiggo, that once he’s got his TdF win, he’d be willing to help Froome to something ELSE, Vuelta or Giro. Not this year though because of the Olympics đŸ˜‰

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    bashthebox

    I think there’s a massive
    I think there’s a massive underestimation of Wiggo here. froome clearly has the same sort of talent as Wiggo, if not a little more punch in the climbs, but wiggo has dragged back all the attacks so far in the mountains. Froome doesn’t have the pressure that the maillot jeune brings, he can zip off the front for a few hundred yards and it doesn’t matter. Far too many conclusions being jumped to – winning the GC in le tour isn’t about attacking, it’s about consistency, has been for years. Not necessarily the way we’d want it, but that’s the way it is. And credit where it’s due, Evans tried and failed to break Wiggo, so did Nibali. It broke Cuddles, and Wiggo came right back at Nibbles.

    Could froome do it better? No doubt, we will see in the tours to come. But not this one. Let’s just rejoice in the talent on display.

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    OmegaPharmaSlowAsShit

    I think it would be hard to
    I think it would be hard to have such a change in dynamic without some serious shake ups elswehere. For Wiggins and Froome, they may work well together, and may not have success apart, but I don’t think they would have success if they switched places all of a sudden. Imagine being the boss one day, your employee gets promoted above you, and suddenly everything changes, nothing will remain the same, it won’t just be a minor shift

    #691237
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    Gkam84

    The thing that bothers me is.
    The thing that bothers me is. Wiggo’s going nowhere without Froome and Vice Versa, Look at the results of them while they have been at Sky together.

    Not that i’ve actually looked, but just thinking, So if it comes a time when Froome is given the nod by the team, say Giro or Vuelta, lets face it, as long as Wiggo is around, he’s going to be number 1 in TdF. So if Froome gets the nod, Will Wiggo be around to dom for Froome?? đŸ˜•

    #691235
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    OmegaPharmaSlowAsShit

    Who wouldn’t be tempted to do
    Who wouldn’t be tempted to do that?! But Froome looks to be smart enough on the road to have worked out he is better off waiting for three years as a Super Dom, building up some smaller victories and stages, than by attacking his own team mate and jeopardising the risk of teams wanting to take him on. As long as he doesn’t begun to say that Wiggo only wins “small, shit races” a la Cavendish and Greipel, I reckon he’ll be fine, and a GT winner in the future, if not in the Tour

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