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Fantasy Cycling: other competitions

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  • March 29, 2012 at 10:56 am #15437
    dave atkinson

    plenty of people interested in other comps we're not running in the main game, it seems.

    here's a suggestion for next year. Just an idea…

    1) we'll run the game in a similar format to before, with headline tours included. we'll amend the game logic so that each competition runs as a separate entity, allowing you to pick separate teams for different competitions. This will allow overlapping competitions to happily co-exist, although the main game will still be linear, ie no overlapping competitions

    2) we'll implement a system that allows users with the correct privileges (you'll have to apply for those) to set up other competitions within the game framework. So, if you want to play Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco, you could set that up within the game: add the stages, manage the startlist, decide the scoring criteria (from a managed list of options) and update the game

    thoughts?

     

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  • March 31, 2012 at 8:45 pm #672079
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    TERatcliffe26

    Its exactly what you have
    Its exactly what you have said, would be optional extra’s, that wouldn’t alter how the game currently runs.
    Currently none of us know exactly how it would look/work, it was an idea thrown out by Dave as like i said we run our own comps via the forum and integrating it into the game would integrate more players that are interested in extra comps, but wouldn’t force others, that like it how it is now, to play.

    (also it takes more time and effort than you would imagine to self score a comp just via a spreadsheet, especially the more players you have. A lot of that work goes in before the comp as we do it as purist, but when startlists change so often, so do the teams of those competing. But its all good fun)

    So I would be for it as it would help me, and allow more players, enhance the fun

    March 31, 2012 at 8:31 pm #672077
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    coffee_queen

    To be honest, I still think
    To be honest, I still think it sounds a little complicated. What I love about the gane right now is that it’s easy to use and with these changes I can see myself getting more than a little frustrated. Of course, these would be optional extras so of course I could opt not to take part. It would just be a shame to miss out on some of the game. Then again when it all comes down to it, it might be the easiest thing in the world to navigate. It remains to be seen and I’m not yet convinced is all

    March 31, 2012 at 8:09 pm #672075
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    TERatcliffe26

    coffee_queen wrote:The bit

    coffee_queen wrote:
    The bit about being able to choose the stages and points sounds a little complicated for me. I like the idea about having different teams for overlapping races, though, but I’m not sure how it would work for the overall league, especially if some people didn’t want to do overlapping races. I also definitely approve of having one team for transfers and then a purist team too.

    The races wouldn’t count in the normal competition, they would just be fun.
    At the moment for quite a few races me and whoever else wishes to join run competitions for fun for the races that are not included in Dave’s game. So basically what Dave is saying is for example i could continue to do that, but do it on the game alongside the main competition, to make it easier for those taking part and for people like myself who currently have to do all the data for the teams and scoring by hand

    March 31, 2012 at 7:45 pm #672073
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    coffee_queen

    The bit about being able to
    The bit about being able to choose the stages and points sounds a little complicated for me. I like the idea about having different teams for overlapping races, though, but I’m not sure how it would work for the overall league, especially if some people didn’t want to do overlapping races. I also definitely approve of having one team for transfers and then a purist team too.

    March 31, 2012 at 6:11 pm #672071
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    giff77

    Like the idea of this
    Like the idea of this 🙂

    March 29, 2012 at 9:12 pm #672069
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    obutterwick

    Yes, great idea.
    Yes, great idea.

    March 29, 2012 at 2:22 pm #672067
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    lucas

    Wow! Cool!
    Wow! Cool! 🙂

    March 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm #672065
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    fluffchucker

    What a topping idea. You must
    What a topping idea. You must have so much spare time B-)

    March 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm #672063
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    drheaton

    dave_atkinson wrote:what it

    dave_atkinson wrote:
    what it does mean is that we could set up purist competitions (no transfers per stage) for the competitions, so you could have a transfers team and a purist team for the same login

    Excellent, means I can delete my other account 😀

    I agree with all your points, having lots of the same competition would get very confusing, especially with different teams for all of them, restricting the big ones like the Giro/TdF/Classics to just the main comp would also mean they stay as the major part of the game with everyone competing on the same terms.

    As part of the ‘variable rules’ thing would you intend on keeping the player value cap as a fixed thing or let people remove it? I was thinking of setting up a purist-ish squad based game type thing next year, pick 25 riders for X credits, use any 9 of them (but only them, noone outside your squad, no transfers) for any race etc, having a bit of flexibilty on value cap might mean I could set it up within the game engine rather than outside of it 😀

    Also, I’d suggest having a ‘competition identifier’ type variable on the competitions set up by community people, that means they can link them together into larger collections of races (like adding in unnofficial classics to the official classics to make a bigger classics comp) or even be able to group together all the comps they run on a certain points basis.

    March 29, 2012 at 11:43 am #672061
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    dave atkinson

    drheaton wrote:Out of

    drheaton wrote:
    Out of interest, given that there’ll be different scoring options available does that mean in theory you might get two versions of the same race running set up by two people with different scoring criteria? And if so will we be able to play both?

    don’t know. we only though of it this morning

    drheaton wrote:
    EDIT: does that also mean someone might be able to set up a different version of the TdF with different scoring (like having full KM/PC points awarded?)

    probably not. you don’t want to end up with nine different TDF games with slightly different scoring criteria

    what it does mean is that we could set up purist competitions (no transfers per stage) for the competitions, so you could have a transfers team and a purist team for the same login

    March 29, 2012 at 11:22 am #672059
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    TERatcliffe26

    Sounds good to me
    Sounds good to me

    March 29, 2012 at 11:13 am #672057
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    drheaton

    Sounds excellent and having
    Sounds excellent and having community involvement is a great way of reducing your workload too 😀

    Out of interest, given that there’ll be different scoring options available does that mean in theory you might get two versions of the same race running set up by two people with different scoring criteria? And if so will we be able to play both?

    EDIT: does that also mean someone might be able to set up a different version of the TdF with different scoring (like having full KM/PC points awarded?)

    March 29, 2012 at 11:09 am #672055
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    Gkam84

    Sounds perfect, Give a few of
    Sounds perfect, Give a few of us a shiny badge and we’ll sort out any extra’s 😉

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