TdF Stage 2

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    Gkam84

    Thats the TTT underway

    1. GARMIN 24.48 (5 men)
    2. BMC 24.52 (7 men)
    3. SKY 24.52 (5 men)
    4. LEOPARD-TREK 24.53 (5 men)
    5. HTC 24.53 (6 men)
    6. RADIOSHACK 24.58 (7 men)
    7. RABOBANK 25.00 (7 men)
    8. SAXO BANK 25.16 (6 men)
    9. ASTANA 25.20 (7 men)
    10. OMEGA PHARMA 25.27 (7 men)
    11. FDJ 25.34 (7 men)
    12. EUROPCAR 25.38 (7 men)
    13. AG2R 25.41 (8 men)
    14. QUICK STEP 25.44 (6 men)
    15. LIQUIGAS 25.45 (6 men)
    16. SAUR-SOJASUN 25.50 (6 men)
    17. LAMPRE 25.52 (5 men)
    18. KATUSHA 25.52
    19. MOVISTAR 25.57 (9 men)
    20. VACANSOLEIL 26.03 (7 men)
    21. COFIDIS 26.08 (8 men)
    22. EUSKALTEL 26.10 (6 men)

    I’ll update times as they finish and reorder them, but no running commentary from me again, trying to encourage others to join in, so feel free, but i’ve got the times covered đŸ˜€

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  • #647499
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    JAndrewHill

    I am feeling a little smug as
    I am feeling a little smug as i picked Velits as my highroad guy . . . whoopy doo

    #647497
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    Gkam84

    Swirly wrote:
    Still Bernie

    Swirly wrote:

    Still Bernie Eisel didn’t really deserve any points did he…

    Just for the comedy value then i say yes, but i would have loved to see him put Cav in the barriers đŸ‘¿

    #647495
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    Swirly

    Wig_Billy wrote:
    As long as

    Wig_Billy wrote:

    As long as the dropped riders finish within the time limit they DO get points for the final position of the team.

    You’re right, I’m completely mis-remembering what happened in the Giro TTT.

    Apparently Frank Schleck swallowed a bee, having once done this with a wasp I also retract my previous statement about him. Chapeau to him to stick on the back of a fast train after that.

    Still Bernie Eisel didn’t really deserve any points did he…

    #647493
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    Wig_Billy

    Swirly wrote:I’m not

    Swirly wrote:
    I’m not convinced that it’s right not to award points to riders who are dropped in every case. For example Garmin used a couple of riders to drive on the pace really hard early on then having them drop off after 10 km where the fresher riders could take over, moreover, what about Zabriskie who died at the end with less than 100 m left. I don’t know what time he got but I’d guess it was quicker than the Omega-Pharma team time. Obviously this was part of their strategy and without killing these riders they would probably have had a slower time overall.

    As long as the dropped riders finish within the time limit they DO get points for the final position of the team.

    #647491
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    Swirly

    Going off the letour website
    Going off the letour website it seems Dave Zabriskie dropped one second on Hushovd so the top 3 should have read: (1) 5 Garmin Riders. (2) Dave Zabrisike @ 1 sec. (3) 7 BMC riders @ 4sec.

    Julian Dean would be another good example, broke himself over the first 8 km or so for the good of the team, without that effort he could most likely of stayed with them when they finished in 4th place. Compare and contrast to a plausible scenario for tomorrow: Bernie Eisel, anxious to make amends after spending the night being chased by Cav with a fondue fork, does his normal sterling effort hammering along at the front of the peloton and pulling off in the last few km to finish a couple of minutes down. The HTC train does its work well and Cav wins. Eisel gets 5 points for Cav’s win.

    I don’t actually have any of the mentioned riders, I just think it’s an interesting point worthy of disscusion.

    #647489
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    Argy

    Swirly wrote:I’m not

    Swirly wrote:
    I’m not convinced that it’s right not to award points to riders who are dropped in every case. For example Garmin used a couple of riders to drive on the pace really hard early on then having them drop off after 10 km where the fresher riders could take over, moreover, what about Zabriskie who died at the end with less than 100 m left. I don’t know what time he got but I’d guess it was quicker than the Omega-Pharma team time. Obviously this was part of their strategy and without killing these riders they would probably have had a slower time overall.

    OTOH Eisel clearly did nothing for HTC and by binning it most likely cost them the win, it’s almost a certainty that someone as strong as him would have saved them 6 seconds over 25 km.

    Then what about Spartacus? He came bloody close to winning a TTT by himself. For sure he should get all Frank Schleck’s points as Schleck did the square root of f all.

    Ok so that last paragraph was a bit tongue in cheek but it’s definitely true that some teams owe their finish position to riders who weren’t in the first group over the line.

    Swirly, great post! you cracked me up! =)) =)) =))

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    Swirly

    I’m not convinced that it’s
    I’m not convinced that it’s right not to award points to riders who are dropped in every case. For example Garmin used a couple of riders to drive on the pace really hard early on then having them drop off after 10 km where the fresher riders could take over, moreover, what about Zabriskie who died at the end with less than 100 m left. I don’t know what time he got but I’d guess it was quicker than the Omega-Pharma team time. Obviously this was part of their strategy and without killing these riders they would probably have had a slower time overall.

    OTOH Eisel clearly did nothing for HTC and by binning it most likely cost them the win, it’s almost a certainty that someone as strong as him would have saved them 6 seconds over 25 km.

    Then what about Spartacus? He came bloody close to winning a TTT by himself. For sure he should get all Frank Schleck’s points as Schleck did the square root of f all.

    Ok so that last paragraph was a bit tongue in cheek but it’s definitely true that some teams owe their finish position to riders who weren’t in the first group over the line.

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    drheaton

    Cool, I had a look on le tour
    Cool, I had a look on le tour website but they’re yet to post the individual stage standings.

    #647483
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    Simon_MacMichael

    I had it as Thor
    I had it as Thor

    #647481
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    drheaton

    Anyone know who crossed the
    Anyone know who crossed the line first for Garmin? It’s 10 extra points for that right?

    #647479
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    Gkam84

    Top 10
    Top 10 overall

    Hushovd
    Miller
    Evans 1 sec
    Thomas 4 sec
    Gerdemann 4 sec
    F Schleck 4 sec
    Cancellara 4 sec
    Hagen 4 sec
    Quinziato 4 sec
    A Schleck 4 sec

    #647477
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    Argy

    Gkam84 wrote:All my “2nd” men

    Gkam84 wrote:
    All my “2nd” men for the teams seem to have been dropped apart from HTC, who are sitting in 4th with BMC looking good to beat them and Omega dying

    Come on Thor! =D> :))

    #647475
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    Gkam84

    All my “2nd” men for the
    All my “2nd” men for the teams seem to have been dropped apart from HTC, who are sitting in 4th with BMC looking good to beat them and Omega dying

    #647473
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    Argy

    Gkam84 wrote:Boost, Bernie

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Boost, Bernie Eisel down on 1st corner, i know a few people have him in their team cause they couldn’t afford Tony Martin :evil:

    Eisel is in my team! G1!! X(

    #647471
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    Gkam84

    Boost, Bernie Eisel down on
    Boost, Bernie Eisel down on 1st corner, i know a few people have him in their team cause they couldn’t afford Tony Martin đŸ‘¿

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