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Suggestions for wheel upgrade from DT Swiss R460

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  • January 16, 2020 at 10:31 am #30417
    godot

    I’m looking for a wheelset to replace the DT R460s that came on my 2018 Specialized Allez Elite. I’ve been having continuous issues with broken spokes, mainly on the rear wheel.

    Specialized replaced the wheels for me when the hub seized (which was very nice of them) and almost immediately spokes started going on the replacement. I used a loan wheel that they gave me over winter and haven’t lost a single spoke so I know that it’s not the way I’m riding, so I assume there’s something up with this model of wheel. 

    My question is, what should I go for as a replacement wheelset? I commute around 120-150 miles a week so something hardwearing is a must. I’ve heard good things about Mavic Aksiums and they seem ridiculously cheap (£143 on Decathlon atm)… Does anyone have any recommendations?

    Cheers

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  • January 18, 2020 at 5:15 pm #955003
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    DrG82

    My aksium wheels are crap,
    My aksium wheels are crap, the spokes are mild steel and rusting like an old trawler. And pretty much every spoke nipple has seized because of the mixed metals creating galvanic corrosion. Yes they are on a commuter bike but I really tried to keep on top of cleaning and servicing and greased all the nipples every time I washed it.

    January 18, 2020 at 4:08 pm #955001
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    TheBillder

    My LBS warned me off Mavics

    My LBS warned me off Mavics as they said they found if difficult to source parts. This was while waiting a month for freehub pawls for my Fulcrum rear wheel.

    I am biased, mind you, I once asked a friend if the big yellow M on his Mavic shoes was for Morrisons. I don’t recall seeing him wearing them subsequently!

    In all seriousness, I see a brand like Mavic and wonder if the marketing spend (eg the TdF neutral car) comes from prices that are a touch on the high side for what you get. 

    January 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm #954999
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    Grahamd
    Bobbinogs wrote:
    Without spending too much you could go for Shimano RS100s as the cheap workhorse pair.

    That is exactly what I have for the winter, coupled with some durable gatorskins and will change back to my Shimano C24s with my GP4000s come the spring. Works for me.

    January 18, 2020 at 2:54 pm #954997
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    Cycle House
    godot wrote:
    Cycle House wrote:
    Aksiums are a waste of money, very heavy (around 300g heavier than R460s) but it’s your choice 🙂

    Cheers for the advice. Would you say they’re a waste of money because of the weight, or are there performance related issues too? 

     

     

    Just for that weight – performance is decent.

    January 16, 2020 at 4:11 pm #954995
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    godot
    Cycle House wrote:
    Aksiums are a waste of money, very heavy (around 300g heavier than R460s) but it’s your choice 🙂

    Cheers for the advice. Would you say they’re a waste of money because of the weight, or are there performance related issues too? 

     

    January 16, 2020 at 3:59 pm #954993
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    Cycle House

    Go with Hunt’s Race Aero

    Go with Hunt’s Race Aero wheelset. Very light at 1479g and won’t break the bank:

    Road Bike Rim Brake Wheelsets | Cyclocross & More | Hunt Bike Wheels

    If you’re willing to spend more, DT Swiss PR 1400 Dicut are what you’re looking for:

    https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/dt-swiss-pr-1400-dicut-oxic-clincher-21mm-wheelset-577612

    Aksiums are a waste of money, very heavy (around 300g heavier than R460s) but it’s your choice 🙂

    January 16, 2020 at 2:38 pm #954991
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    godot

    Cheers, lots to think about.

    Cheers, lots to think about. Hadn’t really considered going cheaper as an option but it definitely makes sense. Obviously going the other way would be preferrable but not sure that’s an option right now 🙁

    January 16, 2020 at 1:20 pm #954989
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    bobbinogs

    Technically, the 460 is not a

    Technically, the 460 is not a wheel but just a rim.  The problem with spokes is that once one goes, the others can get stressed and then start failing even if the original spoke is replaced.  For a commuting bike, you have a couple of options really: either go handbuilt which will mean that you can ride all through the year and then replace the rims when worn out…or go for something cheap and take the hit (basically treat the wheels as comsummable items).  If you have the cash, you may want to mix and match with something cheap for the grind to work and then something nicer for the w/e. 

    Without spending too much you could go for Shimano RS100s as the cheap workhorse pair (less than £80 and surprisingly good), matched with some Zonda C17s (£300) for when you want something a bit livier with nice rubber on at the w/e.  Handbuilt options will typically start at around £350 but get more cost effective as time goes on.

    I got fed up with the cheap option and forever replacing wheels ridden in the winter and splashed out £500 on a decent handbuilt set.  It was a great thing to do as I have now had the wheels for a few years…the DA hubs last for ever if serviced every now and then and a replace/rebuild of the rims costs me about £200.  I have had 3 rebuilds so far and the wheels are lovely to ride, come rain or shine.

    January 16, 2020 at 1:03 pm #954987
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    mearle

    I would spend a bit more. 

    I would spend a bit more.  JRA have these reduced which seem very good value.

    https://www.justridingalong.com/product/lark18-wheelset

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