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No mudguards for me… and if you get sprayed, good!

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  • November 7, 2019 at 12:34 pm #30253
    tommyraleigh

    Some of my commute is on an off-road cycle path, and pretty much every other day I get someone wheelsucking off the back of me without even saying hello which is pretty annoying to be honest. I like to go at my own pace without any drafting and dnt want a race!!

    Now this path can get pretty muddy and wet, luckily I have access to a hose at work so instead of mudguards I just give my bike a quick clean every morning when i get in. But my other reason for not using them is that it gets rid of the wheelsuckers on the muddy days. One actually tried to have a go at me yesterday and I said ‘well you shouldnt have been hanging off the back of my wheel without asking then!’ Plus what if i need to brake sharply or something and I dont even know they are there??

    So my question is am I perfectly justified in having a little chuckle to myself when one of these leeches gets a face full of mud from my back wheel or am I been rude?!

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  • November 7, 2019 at 8:35 pm #952105
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    Anonymous
    Cugel wrote:
    “Wheel sucking” is some sort of foolish Yank terminology denoting a “freeloader” (another foolish Yank term) that is “stealing” your effort by using you to push air out of the way. The terminology reflects the ridiculously over-competative winner-loser schtick of that benighted country.

    In Britain it’s called “sitting on a wheel” and is a recognised method of cycling eficiently that costs the fellow in front nothing. And, being the co-operative fellows we proper cyclists are, the usual arrangement for fellows of more or less equal ability is to take turns on the front, as relative fitness or current condition dictates.

    So, you won’t be surprised to hear, OP, that I find your post rather silly, not to say infantile, especially if you cut orf your nose to spite your face by clarting up your own bike such that you have to perform the tedious business of hosing it down all the time.

    My advice is, stop sucking up Yank kulturekrap.  🙂

    Cugel

    We all know what wheelsucking means, it doesn’t matter what term is used,  only typical stick in the muds bring up the fact that different countries call it something else and make a big deal as you have!

    Bother to grasp the situation that the OP describes, this isn’t about riding effeciently, it’s about another impinging on their safety through cycling too close, as a consequence these wheelsuckers are getting sprayed, that’s their problem not the OPs, he/she is not riding in a group, they are riding on their own, there’s no  ‘etiquette’ here with regards to mudgaurds, also “proper cyclists”, what does that mean exactly?

    Your post is infantile and ignorant, too busy having a pop at the OP to even grasp the rudmentaries of the problem and making a helpful comment!

    November 7, 2019 at 7:30 pm #952103
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    Nick T

    Riding in line with someone I

    Riding in line with someone I know and trust is one thing, but I’ve had some twat run out of talent while sitting on my wheel without my knowing he was even there – until he went into the back of me and fed his bars through my rear wheel. Stay the fuck off my wheel unless you’ve asked and proven you can behave yourself 

    November 7, 2019 at 6:52 pm #952101
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    Judge dreadful

    Ass savers, on my roadys or

    Ass savers, on my roadys or stand off type mudguards, on my mucky / hybrid bike, are fine. I’ve been sent over the bars by having crud / sticks, jamming in hugger guards, on the roadys, it’s not good. A bonus is, that no one wheel sucks, and with the Ass saver, your backside / back doesn’t end up with the dysentery stripe of shame, in rubbish weather / road conditions.

    November 7, 2019 at 6:44 pm #952099
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    mattsccm

    Cugel has it.

    Cugel has it.

    To ay otherwise is daft. What about all those riders coming up behind to pass you? Oh of course the OP is to fast for that.  Equally too selfish to consider that giving a minor tow may be sociable.  Of course he is in a very important race so the rest don’t matter. Pillock to spout off like that. Ah well, not everyone is out of their teenage years yet

     

    November 7, 2019 at 6:43 pm #952097
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    Yellow Peril

    If someone sits on my wheel,

    If someone sits on my wheel, so what? We’re all brothers and sisters on the road. I’ve also been mightily grateful for someone else’s wheel at times.

    November 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm #952095
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    vonhelmet

    Cool story bro.
    Cool story bro.

    November 7, 2019 at 6:05 pm #952093
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    Prosper0

    I don’t really understand the

    I don’t really understand the fuss some people have with wheelsuckers.

    It makes no difference to your cycling/performance etc why do you care? 

    November 7, 2019 at 4:42 pm #952091
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    Sriracha

    Do you pass others on your
    Do you pass others on your way? Pedestrians maybe? People coming the other way? So long as you don’t mind them spraying you with muck in reply then sure, spray away. Personally I think dodging the draft is a feeble excuse.

    November 7, 2019 at 4:27 pm #952089
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    Boatsie

    There might be some reduction
    There might be some reduction of effort required due to returning displaced air which could be a reason why automotive manufacturers advertised that back during 1986 a you beaut new sedan could drive between two of our capital cities on 1 tank of juice but they didn’t tell public that the vehicle was sandwich meat between a push and a pull.
    I like the rear guard because of the dirty snail trail that rooster tails up my back if without. Without a front guard (due to laziness) sloped tube copes most of that spray; a bit of dirt/mud/filthy water gets onto feet yet not much. Bike looks clean from seated view

    November 7, 2019 at 2:43 pm #952087
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    Dingaling
    Cugel wrote:
    “Wheel sucking” is some sort of foolish Yank terminology denoting a “freeloader” (another foolish Yank term) that is “stealing” your effort by using you to push air out of the way. The terminology reflects the ridiculously over-competative winner-loser schtick of that benighted country.

    In Britain it’s called “sitting on a wheel” and is a recognised method of cycling eficiently that costs the fellow in front nothing. And, being the co-operative fellows we proper cyclists are, the usual arrangement for fellows of more or less equal ability is to take turns on the front, as relative fitness or current condition dictates.

    So, you won’t be surprised to hear, OP, that I find your post rather silly, not to say infantile, especially if you cut orf your nose to spite your face by clarting up your own bike such that you have to perform the tedious business of hosing it down all the time.

    My advice is, stop sucking up Yank kulturekrap.  🙂

    Cugel

    Your anti American tirade makes you look a complete twat. Canadians and Americans call it drafting. In German the expression is “am Hinterrad lutschen” which translates as sucking on your rear wheel.

    November 7, 2019 at 2:30 pm #952085
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    Organon
    Cugel wrote:
    “Wheel sucking” is some sort of foolish Yank terminology denoting a “freeloader” (another foolish Yank term) that is “stealing” your effort by using you to push air out of the way. The terminology reflects the ridiculously over-competative winner-loser schtick of that benighted country.

    In Britain it’s called “sitting on a wheel” and is a recognised method of cycling eficiently that costs the fellow in front nothing. And, being the co-operative fellows we proper cyclists are, the usual arrangement for fellows of more or less equal ability is to take turns on the front, as relative fitness or current condition dictates.

    So, you won’t be surprised to hear, OP, that I find your post rather silly, not to say infantile, especially if you cut orf your nose to spite your face by clarting up your own bike such that you have to perform the tedious business of hosing it down all the time.

    My advice is, stop sucking up Yank kulturekrap.  🙂

    Cugel

    Idiotic patronising statements from Cugel not representative of the UK. There is no indication that the OP is American. 

    I have been ‘drafted’ as I call it by another rider who force me to run a red light which was turning amber in front of me. My choice was go through as it turned or brake rapidly and have him crash into me. After the light I gave the slow pedal until I was almost stopped before he over took. When I called him out on his behaviour he seemed to think it was justified because I was dressed ‘like a pro’ so I must think I can handle it. Now that is stupid. The guy was wearing a gold skater helmet if you want to read a book by it’s cover.

    November 7, 2019 at 2:10 pm #952083
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    hawkinspeter

    Totally justified in my

    Totally justified in my opinion. For more of a laugh, go a bit slower and just as you hit a really deep bit of mud, give it a bit of juice to hopefully maximise the spray.

    If they don’t want to get muddy they need to hang back or go in front.

    November 7, 2019 at 1:56 pm #952081
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    alansmurphy

    I’d just drop you!

    I’d just drop you!

    November 7, 2019 at 1:49 pm #952079
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    EddyBerckx
    Cugel wrote:
    “Wheel sucking” is some sort of foolish Yank terminology denoting a “freeloader” (another foolish Yank term) that is “stealing” your effort by using you to push air out of the way. The terminology reflects the ridiculously over-competative winner-loser schtick of that benighted country.

    In Britain it’s called “sitting on a wheel” and is a recognised method of cycling eficiently that costs the fellow in front nothing. And, being the co-operative fellows we proper cyclists are, the usual arrangement for fellows of more or less equal ability is to take turns on the front, as relative fitness or current condition dictates.

    So, you won’t be surprised to hear, OP, that I find your post rather silly, not to say infantile, especially if you cut orf your nose to spite your face by clarting up your own bike such that you have to perform the tedious business of hosing it down all the time.

    My advice is, stop sucking up Yank kulturekrap.  🙂

    Cugel

     

    I think his point is they don’t take a turn and as such, I got no real problem with it.

     

    On busy routes where you can’t help bunching up a bit (or overtake easy, thinking of cycle paths or superhighways) then it’s a different matter entirely. As is overtaking someone then slowing down, thus spraying them with crap – not cool.

    November 7, 2019 at 1:35 pm #952077
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    Cugel

    “Wheel sucking” is some sort

    “Wheel sucking” is some sort of foolish Yank terminology denoting a “freeloader” (another foolish Yank term) that is “stealing” your effort by using you to push air out of the way. The terminology reflects the ridiculously over-competative winner-loser schtick of that benighted country.

    In Britain it’s called “sitting on a wheel” and is a recognised method of cycling eficiently that costs the fellow in front nothing. And, being the co-operative fellows we proper cyclists are, the usual arrangement for fellows of more or less equal ability is to take turns on the front, as relative fitness or current condition dictates.

    So, you won’t be surprised to hear, OP, that I find your post rather silly, not to say infantile, especially if you cut orf your nose to spite your face by clarting up your own bike such that you have to perform the tedious business of hosing it down all the time.

    My advice is, stop sucking up Yank kulturekrap.  🙂

    Cugel

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