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October 1, 2019 at 6:01 pm #30162
viktorapo
I started road cycling this August and been really heavy on it. However my legs especially quads and knees are starting to hurt a lot at periods. Is there any suplement that can help and is legal/natural and speed up the recovery and rest periods?
Thanks
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peted76
@viktorapo
@viktorapo
New to cycling and sore knees.
The ‘problem’ could be anything.
1st thing I’d look at is a bike fit, spend more than £80 and get a proper one which looks at your cleats too. Look here to find your nearest one https://ibfi-certification.com/find-a-fitter
Also you say you want to ride more and feel less sore/knackered, if your muscular sore and not ligament/joint sore.. then you’re simply overdoing it and yes you can mitigate this somewhat, protein is probably the main supplement, but also stretching post workout and rolling/massages will also help.
However, saying that, one of the issues with riding hard and pushing yourself is recovery, there are a gazillion books and papers written on this. One of the ‘takeaway points’ of this is that training easy allows you to ride seven days a week as opposed to riding hard and needing recovery days and that it’s more efficient training to train easy than have to take time off to recover. It’s a massive topic that a lot of people will have other ideas on, but my point is that if you simply might not be giving your body a chance to recover and adapt.
hawkinspeter
aerobean wrote:
[quote=aerobean]Ecdysterone. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333322619_Ecdysteroids_as_non-conventional_anabolic_agent_performance_enhancement_by_ecdysterone_supplementation_in_humans%5B/quote%5D
Sounds like something Popeye would use
aerobean
Boatsie
I love the Welsh..
I love the Welsh..
Such a beautiful flag to share a common boat rule shows a great race of people.
🙂
Green starboard.
Red Drag On hence approaching port.My bodies hammered too bro.
Since a adult I’ve been dead twice, had a broken lower back, broken neck, recognized heave on Earth yet remain surprised when intruders trespass without warrant in structures built with a maze in precision and… Well having thrived amongst thieves…
If I cycle to work I feel better..
Simple as..
I Dare you to engage bog cog and ride a km. Then adjust fitment.
Another brother from a human mother
Boatsie
Lol.
Lol.
Spinnythings wins dingalings.
Ring with Ming until the bore sings.
Bog cog might,
Take off easy and enable slow flight.
Glide with pride and feel that.Love ya work.
hawkinspeter
Mungecrundle wrote:
Mungecrundle wrote:
Consider yourself lucky you don’t suffer from bloating.hawkinspeter wrote:@Boatsie – instructions unclear. I now have a clove of garlic stuck in my ear, some horseradish up my nose (made my eyes water) and I can’t even think about the blueberries.
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Mungecrundle
hawkinspeter wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:@Boatsie – instructions unclear. I now have a clove of garlic stuck in my ear, some horseradish up my nose (made my eyes water) and I can’t even think about the blueberries.
Consider yourself lucky you don’t suffer from bloating.
hawkinspeter
@Boatsie – instructions
@Boatsie – instructions unclear. I now have a clove of garlic stuck in my ear, some horseradish up my nose (made my eyes water) and I can’t even think about the blueberries.
Boatsie
Welsh boy wrote:
Welsh boy wrote:Boatsie wrote:
.. Spin to win.. That’s the best saying ever bro.Welsh boy wrote:Oh no, that old cliche “Spin to Win”. Yet again, old folk lore passed on without any thought or reasonng behind it other than it rhymes so it must be good.
There is reasearch (not advice dished out by the old chap sitting on the back of the clubrun) which suggests that high pedallling speed is not necessarily good for amateurs, keep an open mind and read around the subject, “…research suggests that high cadence/low intensity combination is not a good technique, When a rider pedals at a high cadence in a low gear, 60% of their power is used moving their legs up and down, while only 40% goes into turning the cranks…It is massively inefficient but we didn’t know all the reasons why.”
(https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/why-amateurs-shouldnt-try-to-pedal-like-chris-froome-191779#xCgYAiXQ5BXdpYIU.99)And that is coming from someone who is talking on another thread about using 52*12. If you were to spin that gear you would be doing 40+ mph, which pro team are you riding for 🙂
Skewen Drag Off pebble stone smoothies bro.
🙂I rarely get it up though. I doubt the miniVs via drop bar pulls would like attacking descent angles that feel twisted.. Lol.
According to the computer she likes the want to go home flat run road in 52-17 at 39.8 kmph..
Realistically, from my eyes your probably that Welsh Earth Cycling Champion and have a far better knowledge basis to describe with.
I’m lucky enough to have enlarged Quad ligaments. When ultra scanned the nurse pointed out that my ligaments were big. (Unless wording wrong, the bit that joins bone to tissue). I pointed at my other knee which was inflated to near that of a basketball and he said something similar to, ‘Holy shit. ‘If in doubt of hurt, spin to win 😉
Slowing down in an easier cog must be better than damaging a vulnerable injury.
I average 22kmph.. Pro childish 🙂
My baa D..
Computer reads my best at 7km flat, 43.9kmph max 30.4kmph average in 52-17.
Wanting to get home and sleep after a 14 hour labour day at work.
happy offence intended, pros make me look weak if compared.Welsh boy
Boatsie wrote:
Boatsie wrote:
.. Spin to win.. That’s the best saying ever bro.Welsh boy wrote:Oh no, that old cliche “Spin to Win”. Yet again, old folk lore passed on without any thought or reasonng behind it other than it rhymes so it must be good.
There is reasearch (not advice dished out by the old chap sitting on the back of the clubrun) which suggests that high pedallling speed is not necessarily good for amateurs, keep an open mind and read around the subject, “…research suggests that high cadence/low intensity combination is not a good technique, When a rider pedals at a high cadence in a low gear, 60% of their power is used moving their legs up and down, while only 40% goes into turning the cranks…It is massively inefficient but we didn’t know all the reasons why.”
(https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/why-amateurs-shouldnt-try-to-pedal-like-chris-froome-191779#xCgYAiXQ5BXdpYIU.99)And that is coming from someone who is talking on another thread about using 52*12. If you were to spin that gear you would be doing 40+ mph, which pro team are you riding for 🙂
hobbeldehoy
A man gotsta know his
A man gotsta know his limitations. You don’t say what age you are. You have to be realistic depending on various criteria, age, body type, weight, diet, etc. A lot of folk set unrealistic goals. My advice is to seek small incremental gains, follow a healthy diet, lay off the booze and get enough rest. As for supplements, I’ve experimented with stuff over the years, You could boost protein intake with a shake mix as athletes need more protein than average. I’ve tried creatine but I don’t think it offers much benefit. Other than that all I can say is keep it real and don’t get carried away with dreams of TDF glory. For that you will need EPO, a large bank balance and a preparation for disappointment.
Boatsie
Welsh boy wrote:
Welsh boy wrote:Oh no, that old cliche “Spin to Win”. Yet again, old folk lore passed on without any thought or reasonng behind it other than it rhymes so it must be good.
There is reasearch (not advice dished out by the old chap sitting on the back of the clubrun) which suggests that high pedallling speed is not necessarily good for amateurs, keep an open mind and read around the subject, “…research suggests that high cadence/low intensity combination is not a good technique, When a rider pedals at a high cadence in a low gear, 60% of their power is used moving their legs up and down, while only 40% goes into turning the cranks…It is massively inefficient but we didn’t know all the reasons why.”
(https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/why-amateurs-shouldnt-try-to-pedal-like-chris-froome-191779#xCgYAiXQ5BXdpYIU.99)Inefficient might be true but at the same time if you can keep your footing at high cadence then you’re likely to have a better pressure knowledge of balance when strolling along on a higher leverage.
Hence if the knees are hurting, the kicking is most probably missing the mark or the leverage is too much to recover from efficiently.
I’d rather less on leverage and pedal faster to do the same speed but probably reduce speed while joint hurting.
Bike fit might align kick better but if muscle’s hurt? You beautiful man bro.. If joint’s hurt? Say hello to someone real..Spin to win.. That’s the best saying ever bro.
Almost like, I’m glad your mad, I’m fit butt, I smell your shit, keep pushing wind, I can only ever best at second place.
Organon
Welsh boy wrote:Oh no, that old cliche “Spin to Win”. Yet again, old folk lore passed on without any thought or reasonng behind it other than it rhymes so it must be good.There is reasearch (not advice dished out by the old chap sitting on the back of the clubrun) which suggests that high pedallling speed is not necessarily good for amateurs, keep an open mind and read around the subject, “…research suggests that high cadence/low intensity combination is not a good technique, When a rider pedals at a high cadence in a low gear, 60% of their power is used moving their legs up and down, while only 40% goes into turning the cranks…It is massively inefficient but we didn’t know all the reasons why.”
(https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/why-amateurs-shouldnt-try-to-pedal-like-chris-froome-191779#xCgYAiXQ5BXdpYIU.99)I concur. You have to rememeber to push the pedals to go faster, I often pass people whose cadence is so high they are just bouncing up and down in their seat. Smooth application of force is the thing you want.
As for suppliments, if you can buy it in a shop it will be legal. Unless you are a pro, don’t worry too much.
vonhelmet
Bike fit and a regular dose
Bike fit and a regular dose of rule 5 should sort you out.Welsh boy
Oh no, that old cliche “Spin
Oh no, that old cliche “Spin to Win”. Yet again, old folk lore passed on without any thought or reasonng behind it other than it rhymes so it must be good.
There is reasearch (not advice dished out by the old chap sitting on the back of the clubrun) which suggests that high pedallling speed is not necessarily good for amateurs, keep an open mind and read around the subject, “…research suggests that high cadence/low intensity combination is not a good technique, When a rider pedals at a high cadence in a low gear, 60% of their power is used moving their legs up and down, while only 40% goes into turning the cranks…It is massively inefficient but we didn’t know all the reasons why.”
(https://www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/why-amateurs-shouldnt-try-to-pedal-like-chris-froome-191779#xCgYAiXQ5BXdpYIU.99) -
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