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  • August 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm #30001
    MinardiM189

    Just had my first look at the route and details of the race.

    Looks like there is a big change in the points competition this year. Some stage have 5 intermediate sprints, some have only one and a lot of the intermediate sprints are half way up a climb. There is one on the flat 2km from the start of a mountain stage.

    I have no idea how points are going to be awarded, I can’t find a copy of the rules anywhere but it looks like they are trying to create a more competitive competition, which can be won by sprinters, climbers, puncheurs or breakers. Dr Winston should like this.

    Interestingly the most competitive rider is chosen by the public via social media.

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  • August 26, 2019 at 3:59 pm #947921
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    MinardiM189
    kil0ran wrote:
    tony kappler wrote:
    Interestingly the water was not on the road when Astana went through exactly the same spot 18 minutes earlier than Jumbo. (I checked the video). Reminiscent of the incident when Cadel Evans rode through the tacks on the road.

    Eurosport footage of the UAE crash (onboard) shows that the water wasn’t on the corner where they crashed but a few yards on. So it wasn’t like hitting ice and going down. And it wasn’t a big patch of water. Just goes to show how much on the limit they’re riding

    The water was before the crash, in both cases it looks like one rider going on to the white line after the water loses control and takes his team mates out. Damp tyres, white lines on an ITT bike in a corner at high speed = crash.

    I think both teams use the same type of tyre too.

    August 26, 2019 at 3:12 pm #947919
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    kil0ran
    tony kappler wrote:
    Interestingly the water was not on the road when Astana went through exactly the same spot 18 minutes earlier than Jumbo. (I checked the video). Reminiscent of the incident when Cadel Evans rode through the tacks on the road.

    Eurosport footage of the UAE crash (onboard) shows that the water wasn’t on the corner where they crashed but a few yards on. So it wasn’t like hitting ice and going down. And it wasn’t a big patch of water. Just goes to show how much on the limit they’re riding

    August 26, 2019 at 11:37 am #947917
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    MinardiM189

    First Sprint Stage

    First Sprint Stage

    BENNETT Sam
    LOPEZ
    GAVIRIA
    JAKOBSEN
    WALSCHEID
    BAUHAUS
    SARREAU
    MEZGEC

    I thought Bennett looked to be suffering yesterday so not sure how he will perform today.

    August 25, 2019 at 4:58 pm #947915
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    MinardiM189
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Well that was a bit kak. Put a lot of eggs in the Jumbo, Ineos and Quick step baskets. 

    The only way is up now.

    I made my normal mistake of underestimating Quickstep in the TTT.

    Hopefully Gilbert doesn’t follow it up wityh a win today.

    Bennett & Lopez in for Roglic & Powless.

    BENNETT Sam
    LOPEZ
    VALVERDE
    URAN
    WALSCHEID
    GEOGHEGAN HART
    SARREAU
    FRAILE

    Very annoying, I knew Roglic was going to attack today, but couldn’t find a way of keeping him in my team and bringing Lopez in without making too many changes.

    August 25, 2019 at 1:57 pm #947913
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    MinardiM189
    tony kappler wrote:
    Interestingly the water was not on the road when Astana went through exactly the same spot 18 minutes earlier than Jumbo. (I checked the video). Reminiscent of the incident when Cadel Evans rode through the tacks on the road.

    Marshall’s were waving flags ahead of the water, so they were warned and the teams behind them got through the same spot OK.

    However, Jumbo riders have a history of crashing in damp conditions in time trials. Something to do with their tyres perhaps.

    August 25, 2019 at 12:41 pm #947911
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    tony kappler

    Interestingly the water was

    Interestingly the water was not on the road when Astana went through exactly the same spot 18 minutes earlier than Jumbo. (I checked the video). Reminiscent of the incident when Cadel Evans rode through the tacks on the road.

    August 25, 2019 at 10:04 am #947909
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Well that was a bit kak. Put a lot of eggs in the Jumbo, Ineos and Quick step baskets. 

    The only way is up now.

    I made my normal mistake of underestimating Quickstep in the TTT.

    Hopefully Gilbert doesn’t follow it up wityh a win today.

    Bennett & Lopez in for Roglic & Powless.

    BENNETT Sam
    LOPEZ
    VALVERDE
    URAN
    WALSCHEID
    GEOGHEGAN HART
    SARREAU
    FRAILE

    August 24, 2019 at 7:08 pm #947907
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    Dr Winston

    Well that was a bit kak. Put

    Well that was a bit kak. Put a lot of eggs in the Jumbo, Ineos and Quick step baskets. 

    The only way is up now.

    August 24, 2019 at 6:46 pm #947905
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    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Fancied Fraile & Aranburu but went with Mezgec & Gesink

    Hmmm, I picked Gesink thinking he would score 20 points today.

    Fraile to win tomorrow with Aranburu 2nd ?

    August 24, 2019 at 4:40 pm #947903
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    MinardiM189

    My standard team for stage 1

    My standard team for stage 1 –

    ROGLIC
    POWLESS
    VALVERDE
    URAN
    WALSCHEID
    GEOGHEGAN HART
    SARREAU
    FRAILE

    Hoping for a surprise from  Groupama FDJ today.

    My purist team –

    ROGLIC
    LOPEZ
    VALVERDE
    BENNETT Sam
    FORMOLO
    MEZGEC
    LATOUR
    GESINK

    Fancied Fraile & Aranburu but went with Mezgec & Gesink

    August 24, 2019 at 11:57 am #947901
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Quite amazing that, after Bernal’s success, a 20 year old Pogacar should be quite so fancied to do well in the Vuelta. The times really are changing.

    Undoubtedly Pogacar is very talented but he has never done a GT before and hasn’t done a race with lots of hard climbing. Bernal had done a lot more serious racing before winning the TdF and is 2 years older, expecting Pogacar to do well in GC is a bit premature, imo.

    He may have won in Algarve and California but there wasn’t any ‘difficult’ climbing in either and there wasn’t a lot of serious competition in either race. Kragh Andersen was 2nd in Algarve and Asgreen 3rd in California, neither of whom are exactly GC candidates.

    Yeah…..He’s picked his moments and taken them well.  My point was just the fact he can be held in such high regard at such a young age is an achievement in itself. We seem to be in the middle of a real collection of new young riders coming through from every direction.

    August 24, 2019 at 9:06 am #947899
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Quite amazing that, after Bernal’s success, a 20 year old Pogacar should be quite so fancied to do well in the Vuelta. The times really are changing.

    Undoubtedly Pogacar is very talented but he has never done a GT before and hasn’t done a race with lots of hard climbing. Bernal had done a lot more serious racing before winning the TdF and is 2 years older, expecting Pogacar to do well in GC is a bit premature, imo.

    He may have won in Algarve and California but there wasn’t any ‘difficult’ climbing in either and there wasn’t a lot of serious competition in either race. Kragh Andersen was 2nd in Algarve and Asgreen 3rd in California, neither of whom are exactly GC candidates.

    August 24, 2019 at 6:51 am #947897
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    Condor Andy

    Jesper Hansen now on. Seems
    Jesper Hansen now on. Seems he dodged the valuing process.

    August 23, 2019 at 10:54 pm #947895
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    Dr Winston

    Quite amazing that, after

    Quite amazing that, after Bernal’s success, a 20 year old Pogacar should be quite so fancied to do well in the Vuelta. The times really are changing.

    August 23, 2019 at 3:50 pm #947893
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    MinardiM189

    Condor Andy]

    11waterloo</strong></p> <p>[quote=Condor Andy wrote:
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    That’s the one outstanding thing I have left to do, sort out the deadlines. It will be about 15 mins before the first team sets off.

    Jesper Hansen totally missing from riders list ?

     

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