Is it OK to buy online and ask local bike shop to fit?

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    cyclefaster

    I have a bit of money (including some vouchers for a popular online shop) to spend on some upgrades to my bike. Had it a couple of years and and the compromise I made at the time when buying was to get mechanical discs to keep it to the budget.

    Would either like to go for an upgrade to 105 hydraulic discs or the cheaper option is trp hy/rd.

    There is a great bike shop near me where I bought the bike from and get my services from but the problem is the bike shop tends to sell at full retail prices and a lot more than I can pick up parts for online.

    I’m not much of a bike mechanic so don’t fancy trying to install myself. Is it OK to ask a shop about fitting parts I’ve sourced online and pay for the labour? Not sure what the etiquette is here.

    Cheers

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    wycombewheeler

    If your LBS doesn’t want the

    If your LBS doesn’t want the busniness, look for a local independant mechanic without a shop, perhaps they will be a mobile mechanic with a van or have a bike workshop in a non high street location. The mecahnic I use prefers me to turn up with all the parts I need, as he wants to spend his time workng on bikes, not ordering parts and waiting for them to arrive. 

    When I collect my bike from him it is always running like a brand new machine.

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    philhubbard

    Just thought I would chime in

    Just thought I would chime in on this one, been in the business for 10 years on both sides of the fence. First 5 years were working in a shop, 3 more working for an outdoor distributor and now back purchasing for an online retailer. A few key points below;

     

    – Most shops will fit parts for a charge, they accept this as part of their role but don’t expect priority over customers which have bought their parts instore.

    – Warranty issues should be taken up with your online retailer not the shop that fitted the part (unless it was fitted correctly). 

    – Be aware of extra charges, if your brake pads are worn but you want a new handlebar fitting the shop will normally have to put the bike into a “safe” condition so they are covered under their liability insurance. 

    – Small shops cannot compete on price with most online retailers. Period. One of my local shops will actually match online prices as long as it is above their trade price and if it is below trade they will sell it you at trade, its the business but I understand them not wanting to make a loss.

    – Business works on both sides of the fence its crap your shop pays more than an online account but that online account will be making more money for the supplier. It was often known that CRC and the likes will be selling parts cheaper than trade for most other accounts as they buy them from OEM suppliers rather than distributors where they can. 

    – Be nice, say hi and treat bike shops with respect, they will help where they can, if possible don’t go in at weekends because that’s when most of the browsers will be in. Appreciate their work and always take them something good, if you know it will be a horrible job (snapped bolts, jammed parts, internal cable routing) take them biscuits or beer and don’t expect a discount. If you’re a good enough customer the shop will give you one!

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    hawkinspeter

    I’ve asked my LBS for a

    I’ve asked my LBS for a repair and supplied my own parts and they were more than happy to help. In my case I was intending to do the work myself but hit a problem, so I already had the spare part. However if a bike shop can’t compete with internet prices then they are at least making money with the labour side of it and are building a relationship with the customer.

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    Griff500

    There is no right or wrong
    There is no right or wrong answer to the broader question, it depends on the circumstances. In this case, when you have vouchers to spend, any reasonable LBS would understand your position, and also understand that it is better business for him to fit the parts at a price, than to turn you away. I bought a £2.5k bike from my LBS, and he actually advised me to buy the pedals online, and he fit them.

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    Griff500

    wicksy5508 wrote:

    wicksy5508 wrote:

    No its not ok.

    Would you go Kwik Fit with tyres and ask them to fit them?


    Yes! Kwik Fit have a standard rate for fitting tyres you take along, and they are happy to do so.

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    mattsccm

    I suspect that it will depend

    I suspect that it will depend on the shop and  thats fair. To suggest that any decent shop will take your parts and fit them is over simplifying things. Each will have its own business model and the customer has to accept that by complying or going elsewhere.  A shop that makes its profit on parts may not want to see you , especially if you rarely visit are bringing parts that they stock. A regular customer bringing in something thats not their normal stock may have a different response.  Which are you. If it’s a no then just accept it without hard feelings.

    We have no right to expect any business to deal with our individual needs. On a different note, spend the money on an instruction book. It’s only a bike and thus needs virtually no expensive and rarely used tools.  Fix it yourself and thus remove the need to ask the question.

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    Anonymous
    wicksy5508 wrote:
    Does anyone commenting actually know (I include myself in this) what is the most profitable part of a bike shop ie servicing, supplying parts, selling bikes, or are we all just assuming?

     

    perhaps some LBS owners would like to chime in on this, because it seems to me that £40per hour labour for one mechanic doesn’t a profit make when all other costs are factored in. (I run a security systems installation business so being profitable is obv very Important!)

    Where did I say there was one mechanic? There is usually three people in there all day, it’s the only bike shop in a small town but happens to be the only bike shop of any note in the locality since Byer cycles shut down a few years back. Their workshop is usually rammed from early spring.

    They moved to bigger/better purpose built premises some years back where I bought a bike from the shop in 1990, their accounts look pretty healthy AFAICT.

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    Prosper0

    Perhaps I’m a spoilt Londoner

    Perhaps I’m a spoilt Londoner but I don’t understand the weirdness here. 

    There are “many” ways for an LBS to make money. Everyone knows that services are the way to make money these days.

    If an LBS gives you grief for you offering money for their mechanic services they’re idiots that will be soon out of business. 

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    jaymack

    Just ask them nicely. My LBS

    Just ask them nicely. My LBS couldn’t compete with the Internet his workshop subsidised the rest, he’s not renewed his lease and now has a successful mobile business. You’re obviously concerned to do the right thing by your local independent trader, if only more people were, so do ask and make the most of the type of service the Internet can’t provide. And of course if they’re not used, they won’t turn a profit and if they’re not making money they’ll soon be out of business and you’ll have no one to fit the parts.

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    Xenophon2

    You should simply ask them if

    You should simply ask them if they’re willing to do so and how much they charge.  I’ve known extremes from one shop (when I was doing a Brompton conversion) where the owner simply told me that he’d be happy to install any components at a regular hourly fee but only if I brought him everything and was willing to assume the risk if something didn’t fit, he simply didn’t want to do any research.  Another shop told me no, adding that neither were they willing to order any ‘exotic’ components nor indeed perform any work on a bike that hadn’t been purchased with them and unceremoneously showed me the door.  A couple of repair and maintenance outfits are building a business model around simply charging by the hour in order to do whatever tickles your fancy, offering a cheaper rate and ‘guaranteed suitability’ if you order components through them.

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    alotronic

    My LBS fitted a whole

    My LBS fitted a whole groupset without any qualms at all – small neighbourhood shop, nice guy, happy to take my money, doesn’t sell those kinds of parts. I go back and buy bits and pieces off him when I can. Just ask.

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    kil0ran

    One option might be to look

    One option might be to look for a local cycling/sustainable transport collective – there was one where I used to work and you could pop in and fit your own stuff with a little help from trained mechanics. 

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    alansmurphy

     

     

    I’ve also mixed and matched. Took a new derailleur to the LBS and they were the cheapest online for the hanger. As I didn’t know if the hanger was the correct one and the shop didn’t have the range of cassette I wanted it worked perfectly to buy a part and get reasonably priced labour…

     

    #947559
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    slappop
    wicksy5508 wrote:
    Would you buy a beer at a supermarket and take it to your local pub and ask if was ok to drink it in there? Same beer.

    That’s actually a thing. Many restaurants will let you bring your own wine. They’ll usually charge a ‘corkage fee’ for that to cover their fixed costs. Similarly, a bike shop should charge you the necessary ‘repair fee’ for them to be able to make a profit from their labour.

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    Simon E

    No-one commenting knows the

    No-one commenting knows the shop’s attitude, they are just guessing.

    I would jot down some prices, pop in when it’s not too busy, explain that part of the reason is that you are using a voucher (providing it’s a significant element of the cost) and see what they say. I suspect that the response will depend on your relationship with them and their general policy.

    I think I have a good relationship with the team at my local shop. I have occasionally asked them to fit things I’ve bought online, mostly s/h or hard to source items like NOS chainrings.

    gbzpto wrote:
    They are not overcharging you on parts. Their trade accounts will be more expensive than wiggle etc.
    I believe this is often the case. Wiggle/CRC source many OEM parts and/or through ‘grey’ markets.

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