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  • July 29, 2019 at 12:53 pm #29962
    tommyraleigh

    As I rode into work along a shared use path this morning, I approached some mothers with buggies. They were walking side by side and took up the whole path. Obviously I slowed right down and did my best to call a cheery ‘cyclist’ to them, and they still didn’t look best pleased at having to let me past. Is it fair that they take the whole of a busy path at peak commuting time, or should I wind my neck in? Are they technically in the wrong or is it just poor form? I’d prefer that they learn the meaning of ‘shared’ path, but bunny-hopping a baby seems a little much! What to do?

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  • July 30, 2019 at 8:48 am #947019
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    hawkinspeter
    stomec wrote:
    a4th wrote:
    A lot of very depressing comments on this post. Hadn’t realised that so many of you were closet Daily Mail readers just looking for a chance to feel oppressed by the nasty feminists out there. 

    It stems from a profound insecurity – no halfway successful, confident man is ever going to be threatened by female equality; if you read the posts of those who are then the desire for attention and recognition online that they so obviously lack in real life is palpable.  It’s sad really. 

    Look, can you stop making this about the gender of the buggy pushers and instead focus on the real problems?

     

    July 30, 2019 at 8:34 am #947017
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    stomec
    a4th wrote:
    A lot of very depressing comments on this post. Hadn’t realised that so many of you were closet Daily Mail readers just looking for a chance to feel oppressed by the nasty feminists out there. 

    It stems from a profound insecurity – no halfway successful, confident man is ever going to be threatened by female equality; if you read the posts of those who are then the desire for attention and recognition online that they so obviously lack in real life is palpable.  It’s sad really. 

    July 30, 2019 at 8:22 am #947015
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    brooksby

    bivvy wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    Sorry, yes, the feminism comments were aimed at another poster after you – a4th (and it was early in the morning, cut me some slack yes ).

    I have to disagree that “Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly.” though.  In my own experience groups of pedestrians on shared-use paths, and groups of buggy-pushers everywhere, will very rarely move over or make a gap, no matter how nice/friendly/polite you are about it (YMMV).

    July 30, 2019 at 7:50 am #947013
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    bivvy

    brooksby wrote:

    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    July 30, 2019 at 7:49 am #947011
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    bivvy

    brooksby wrote:

    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    July 30, 2019 at 7:49 am #947009
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    bivvy

    brooksby wrote:

    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    July 30, 2019 at 7:49 am #947007
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    bivvy

    brooksby wrote:

    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    July 30, 2019 at 7:49 am #947005
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    bivvy

    brooksby wrote:

    brooksby wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    But my point was the OP missed that he likely came over worse than he thought he did. Had he really been cheerful I believe they would have moved over willingly and been friendly. I explained why, please read my comment again. In many of my passes I have analyzed on shared paths, I noticed the tone of voice is crucial if shouting out. And even if we think we are “trying” to sound friendly it’s hard to disguise what we are really thinking in our voice. Women esp. pick this up. I mentioned nothing about feminism that was another comment, I think you are confusing the two. Feminism does not come into this as far as I am concerned.

    July 30, 2019 at 5:49 am #947003
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    Mungecrundle

    Look at the Mothers in the
    Look at the Mothers in the park.
    For they are ugly, chiefly.
    But they were once loved, in the past.
    In the dark, and briefly.

    Anon

    July 30, 2019 at 5:28 am #947001
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    brooksby

    bivvy wrote:

    bivvy wrote:
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    I think you’re missing the OPs point, which was basically that a little consideration and sharing goes *both ways*…

     I know that parenting is bl00dy difficult.

    The following posts, including my own, we’re not on the whole having a go at feminists or feminism but at a certain set of mums with small children who feel particularly entitled because they have successfully bred.

     

    July 30, 2019 at 4:38 am #946999
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    a4th

    A lot of very depressing

    A lot of very depressing comments on this post. Hadn’t realised that so many of you were closet Daily Mail readers just looking for a chance to feel oppressed by the nasty feminists out there. 

     

    July 30, 2019 at 12:47 am #946997
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    bivvy

    How you shouted, “cyclist” is
    How you shouted, “cyclist” is everything. If you were as you said already annoyed with them being side by side it’s quite possible your tone reflected this. Even if you tried to be cheerful your real frustration likely came through. So they were more annoyed at your tone than having to move over? Which makes a lot more sense to me. They must know cycles are allowed too. Best to use a bell, always gets good results, or be careful of what you are thinking when shouting as your tone will reflect this no matter how hard you try. Nothing wrong with them being side by side, it allows them to talk as they use the path. OK you need to get to work but raising a child is not easy either. A little consideration and sharing go a long way. Have a nice day.

    July 29, 2019 at 8:18 pm #946995
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    srchar
    Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:
    Your next test will be to walk down the street and not move out of the way of females coming in the opposite direction.  Just make sure you look your best, as you’ll be on YouTube before you get home.

    I was gently headbutted in the chest today by a young lady walking towards me while looking at her phone. I was standing still by the time she hit me and unable to move sideways, as she was part of a zombie horde walking out of Kings Cross station after a train arrived. I’d love to watch it back – could you send me that YouTube link please?

    Do the blokes who also walk into other people while staring into a phone, or carrying a carpet under each arm, not upload to YouTube?

    July 29, 2019 at 8:12 pm #946993
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    srchar

    Yes! Another hate group I can

    Yes! Another homogeneous group I can be part of. Now, I’m a cyclist, driver, pedestrian and buggy-pusher! Add your transport-based preconceptions to my Leave vote and part-ownership of a company that makes things out of plastic and there are now more reasons than ever to hate me without ever having met me.

    July 29, 2019 at 7:45 pm #946991
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    Anonymous

    Remember the scene in

    Remember the scene in Apocalypse Now! when Chef goes into the jungle to look for some mangoes, gets chased by an enormous hungry tiger and eventually escapes, yelling “Never get out of the boat! Never get out of the boat!”?

    Well, never ride anywhere but the road.

    Unless you’re going all the way.

     

     

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