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June 11, 2019 at 1:34 pm #29737
redrobot
are there any ethical questions to do with cycling? i dont mean road etiquette. i mean things like a bike’s provenance etc. you seem quite happy to reproduce soft porn images to illustrate your articles on the porn peddlars for example. when one considers the catastrophic effects of porn on society at large does a little charity work really offset that?
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OldRidgeback
brooksby wrote:OldRidgeback wrote:I do wonder if this person was making all these posts as part of a school project.What: “101 ways to p!$$ off the grown-ups”?
Yep, trolling while pretending not to.
brooksby
OldRidgeback wrote:I do wonder if this person was making all these posts as part of a school project.What: “101 ways to p!$$ off the grown-ups”?
OldRidgeback
I do wonder if this person
I do wonder if this person was making all these posts as part of a school project.
hawkinspeter
brooksby wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:What is ‘soft’ porn exactly?Is it porn thats just really very tired, and would just like to cuddle instead?

Ryan Creamer?
Pilot Pete
maybe your green crusade

maybe your green crusade would be better directed at the Chinese government? https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/03/28/china-new-coal-plants-2030-climate/
And as for your niche view about porn being a social catastrophe, I’m not sure I see evidence to back that up. I am sat in a very public coffee shop and have been for the last hour or two and I haven’t seen anything really catastrophic either in here or outside that makes me think I agree with your viewpoint.
Or do you think that teenage girls wearing too short skirts for school is evidence? Because they were doing that well before the porn industry grew big – it’s just that ‘moral outrage’ on the part of teachers, churches etc had a stronger hold over society back then. However, we’ve all seen where the churches moral outrage should have been directed – in over at the behaviour of those in the positions of control and influence.
Oh and by the way, I’m not advocating porn, I’m just not as outraged as you at the news article about a cycling club which had been refused BC membership. I think you are seeing things to be outraged at to fit your viewpoint.
brooksby
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:What is ‘soft’ porn exactly?Is it porn thats just really very tired, and would just like to cuddle instead?

hawkinspeter
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:What is ‘soft’ porn exactly?Not as much fun?
Anonymous
What is ‘soft’ porn exactly?
What is ‘soft’ porn exactly?
So you wish to suppress the free will of some people who are not asking you to join in, not asking you to look/watch, not asking for any money from you, not breaking any laws, have I got that right?
I see far more offensive things on the high street, I see more harm being done by people who don’t give a stuff about other human beings, I see more harm from inept government and police. But you’ve got a beef with some people who indulge/sell something that most adults get involved in behind (and sometimes not behind) their own doors.
This isn’t the Victorian era, don’t look, don’t let your kids have access, problem solved.
redrobot
ridiculouscyclist wrote:Lovely exercise, but it’s based on the premise that the organisers & marshalls & team workers don’t make arrangements to sweep these up after the riders have been through . . . so have you factored that into your equation?no, i didnt. i saw at least one bottle going over a tall hedge. one bottle too many. they shd be made to carry waste pouches.
Zigster
I remember an article or two
I remember an article or two on road.cc about the Porn Peddlars.
I’m struggling to see your problem – it was a reasonable article for an online cycling magazine to run (that their club had had its BC membership revoked). There wasn’t an excess of gratuitous pictures that one might unintentionally come across and if you didn’t like the text then you didn’t have to read it.
In your view, would it have been reasonable for any newspaper or magazine to run with the story? Or is it better that news you don’t want to read just isn’t reported at all?
Mungecrundle
Won’t somebody think of the
Won’t somebody think of the children!?ridiculouscyclist
redrobot wrote:force? how wd i try to do that on a forum?knowing my attitude the female poster is indulging in a kind of visual assault.
it may take you many years to get out of the porn sewer. you’ll be laughing most of that time, staring transfixed into snake eyes the rest. you may never get out.
end of discussion
Jeez, you’re an odd one.
brooksby
redrobot wrote:knowing my attitude the female poster is indulging in a kind of visual assault.“the female poster”? Do sheets of paper have a gender? Or do you mean ktache’s picture? (that would be ktache whose signature pic has a beard
)redrobot
force? how wd i try to do
force? how wd i try to do that on a forum?
knowing my attitude the female poster is indulging in a kind of visual assault.
it may take you many years to get out of the porn sewer. you’ll be laughing most of that time, staring transfixed into snake eyes the rest. you may never get out.
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Luca Patrono
Holding an unpopular point of
Holding an unpopular point of view is not necessarily broad minded. Sometimes a point of view is unpopular and fringe because it is held by people who are exceptionally narrow minded, and as such, the majority of well adjusted people do not agree with it.I think you missed my point as well. You hold an opinion on porn, a moral one, that it creates “social horror”. This almost always goes back to conservative moral standards based on controlling the behaviour of other people to satisfy the holder’s moral outrage. There is very little substance to it – porn can create addiction, as can video games. Neither are social horrors. An example of a social horror is the Tory party war on the disabled via benefit sanctions and reductions.
What I am trying to get across is that neither you nor I have the right to control legitimate and legal freedom of expression based on our moral outrage. You don’t like seeing adult workers illustrated in a provocative way in an article of which they are the subject? It’s too bad. I see things I don’t like. And I don’t try to force everyone else not to see them either.
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