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May 2, 2019 at 12:36 am #29603
Dr Winston
Thought i’d try an early post for some pre race thoughts…so i’ll Start..
https://www.cyclingstage.com/giro-2019-route/
Loving the last stage….for some of us old timers it’s like Laurent Fignon all over again. Do we approve?..or do we like the procession and sprint?
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Condor Andy
MinardiM189 wrote:So who is going to stop the break winning by 20 minutes today.It’s up to Jumbo for me, they don’t have anyone in the break. They might get some help from Mitchelton Scott, but no one else really.
So who is going to stop the
So who is going to stop the break winning by 20 minutes today.
Condor Andy
Subs made, my team will
Subs made, my team will probably stay like this for the next few days.
CONTI
MADOUAS
NIBALI
ROGLIC
YATES
CICCONE
CARAPAZ
MASNADAMy team for today –
My team for today –
ROGLIC
NIBALI
DE GENDT
MASNADA
DEMARE
CICCONE
CARTHY
VERVAEKEMix of break and GC
Demare my outside pick to win the stage.
stevemarks wrote:Ewan and Viviani DNS tomorrow imagine Ackermann will do the same.I expect Ackermann to persevere.
It is his first Grand Tour so he will want to finish and the team will want him to get the experience.
stevemarks
Ewan and Viviani DNS tomorrow
Ewan and Viviani DNS tomorrow imagine Ackermann will do the same.
Dr Winston wrote:MinardiM189 wrote:Dr Winston wrote:Possibly….but also possible they attack the pink jersey elect. His nearest serious contender is three minutes behind him and he has a further TT to come. Three minutes is more than just one good day of beating Roglic. If it isn’t tomorrow then i’d suggest it’s very soon if any of them seriously think they can beat him at this Giro for overall.I think GC teams will make it hard on the main climb & attack on the final ‘hump’ but there is a long way from that final climb to the finish and the next 2 stages offer a much better chance of making significant time if Roglic struggles.
Oh Aye. Good chances to make significant time on those for sure. My point is that by the time you add the chunk of time he will gain on the final TT to the three minutes he has in hand then they have to make significant time on him on more than one stage. I’d find it hard to believe they’d take much more than a minute out of him at best on any one day…or do you think they could duff him up for more than a minute on one stage between them all?
Nibalis is 1:44 behind Roglic.
Roglic hasn’t got much help in the mountains, only Tolhoek & Kuss. Roglic will find himslef isolated on quite a few stages, he can lose a lot of time quite quickly.
Dr Winston
MinardiM189 wrote:Dr Winston wrote:Possibly….but also possible they attack the pink jersey elect. His nearest serious contender is three minutes behind him and he has a further TT to come. Three minutes is more than just one good day of beating Roglic. If it isn’t tomorrow then i’d suggest it’s very soon if any of them seriously think they can beat him at this Giro for overall.I think GC teams will make it hard on the main climb & attack on the final ‘hump’ but there is a long way from that final climb to the finish and the next 2 stages offer a much better chance of making significant time if Roglic struggles.
Oh Aye. Good chances to make significant time on those for sure. My point is that by the time you add the chunk of time he will gain on the final TT to the three minutes he has in hand then they have to make significant time on him on more than one stage. I’d find it hard to believe they’d take much more than a minute out of him at best on any one day…or do you think they could duff him up for more than a minute on one stage between them all?
Dr Winston wrote:Possibly….but also possible they attack the pink jersey elect. His nearest serious contender is three minutes behind him and he has a further TT to come. Three minutes is more than just one good day of beating Roglic. If it isn’t tomorrow then i’d suggest it’s very soon if any of them seriously think they can beat him at this Giro for overall.I think GC teams will make it hard on the main climb & attack on the final ‘hump’ but there is a long way from that final climb to the finish and the next 2 stages offer a much better chance of making significant time if Roglic struggles.
Dr Winston
MinardiM189 wrote:Condor Andy wrote:MinardiM189 wrote:Quite likely we will see someone new in Pink.But WHO?? That is the question. One of the outside guys who’s in the top 20? Carboni? Madouas? Masnada? How are the peloton going to race it? We saw the same kind of racing at the Vuelta last year on stages 5 and 12. Almost identical to this race. Huge gamble to put someone in who might do well, but what have I got to lose at this point?
I could just make 2 transfers a day for a while, building the best team for the final few days.
It is a pretty flat start, so that goes against smaller riders getting in the break.
Once a break goes away it is difficult to know who will control things.
Unless Conti gets in the break himself I think it will be very difficult for him to stay in Pink. The only way is if GC teams take it really easy on the climb, if anyone goes for it Conti will lose over 2 mins. Based on that I don’t see UAE working that hard to control the break.
Roglic has a good lead so I don’t see Jumbo chasing the break. Other GC teams won’t want to use energy with hard stages on Friday & Saturday.
It could end up with all the teams refusing to chase and the break winning by 10 minutes.
Possibly….but also possible they attack the pink jersey elect. His nearest serious contender is three minutes behind him and he has a further TT to come. Three minutes is more than just one good day of beating Roglic. If it isn’t tomorrow then i’d suggest it’s very soon if any of them seriously think they can beat him at this Giro for overall.
I’m really restricted on transfers so bought Roglic in today and only need 3/4 for Friday/tomorrow, but that’s the 64 m dlr question?MinardiM189 wrote:Condor Andy wrote:Which makes it super hard to call. This could end up being a really interesting stage. The climb near the end, whilst short, is really steep, and cobbled. I’d love to see some late attacks go over that one.I’ve just had a look at 6 transfers I could make that would set me up nicely. Then I would just make a few changes to grab in some KOM chasers and GC men and call it a day. I might limit it to 3 or 4 for tomorrow though just to be on the safe side.
That was Viviani’s last stage along with Ewan, so that frees up 2 places.
I’ll probably make 6 or 7 transfers but then I have a lot remianing.
Condor Andy wrote:Which makes it super hard to call. This could end up being a really interesting stage. The climb near the end, whilst short, is really steep, and cobbled. I’d love to see some late attacks go over that one.I’ve just had a look at 6 transfers I could make that would set me up nicely. Then I would just make a few changes to grab in some KOM chasers and GC men and call it a day. I might limit it to 3 or 4 for tomorrow though just to be on the safe side.
That was Viviani’s last stage along with Ewan, so that frees up 2 places.
I’ll probably make 6 or 7 transfers but then I have a lot remianing.
Condor Andy
Which makes it super hard to
Which makes it super hard to call. This could end up being a really interesting stage. The climb near the end, whilst short, is really steep, and cobbled. I’d love to see some late attacks go over that one.
I’ve just had a look at 6 transfers I could make that would set me up nicely. Then I would just make a few changes to grab in some KOM chasers and GC men and call it a day. I might limit it to 3 or 4 for tomorrow though just to be on the safe side.
Condor Andy wrote:MinardiM189 wrote:Quite likely we will see someone new in Pink.But WHO?? That is the question. One of the outside guys who’s in the top 20? Carboni? Madouas? Masnada? How are the peloton going to race it? We saw the same kind of racing at the Vuelta last year on stages 5 and 12. Almost identical to this race. Huge gamble to put someone in who might do well, but what have I got to lose at this point?
I could just make 2 transfers a day for a while, building the best team for the final few days.
It is a pretty flat start, so that goes against smaller riders getting in the break.
Once a break goes away it is difficult to know who will control things.
Unless Conti gets in the break himself I think it will be very difficult for him to stay in Pink. The only way is if GC teams take it really easy on the climb, if anyone goes for it Conti will lose over 2 mins. Based on that I don’t see UAE working that hard to control the break.
Roglic has a good lead so I don’t see Jumbo chasing the break. Other GC teams won’t want to use energy with hard stages on Friday & Saturday.
It could end up with all the teams refusing to chase and the break winning by 10 minutes.
Condor Andy
MinardiM189 wrote:Quite likely we will see someone new in Pink.But WHO?? That is the question. One of the outside guys who’s in the top 20? Carboni? Madouas? Masnada? How are the peloton going to race it? We saw the same kind of racing at the Vuelta last year on stages 5 and 12. Almost identical to this race. Huge gamble to put someone in who might do well, but what have I got to lose at this point?
I could just make 2 transfers a day for a while, building the best team for the final few days.
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