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  • May 2, 2019 at 12:36 am #29603
    Dr Winston

    Thought i’d try an early post for some pre race thoughts…so i’ll Start..

    https://www.cyclingstage.com/giro-2019-route/

    Loving the last stage….for some of us  old timers it’s like Laurent Fignon all over again. Do we approve?..or do we like the procession and sprint?

     

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  • May 31, 2019 at 11:41 am #941551
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    Dr Winston

    Neither of Masnada or Ciccone

    Neither of Masnada or Ciccone in the break. HasCiccone won the KOM competition yet?

    Also…Yes identical to above but decided against Masnada and kept Sosa….although he’s done nowt so far. 

    May 31, 2019 at 10:49 am #941549
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    Sniffer
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    I suspect most players will have very similar teams to mine for the next 2 stages –

    ROGLIC
    NIBALI
    LANDA
    CARAPAZ
    LOPEZ
    CICCONE
    CARTHY
    MASNADA

    5 transfers remaining

     

    Yes, mine is identical.  You have a couple more transfers though.

    May 31, 2019 at 10:13 am #941547
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    MinardiM189

    I suspect most players will

    I suspect most players will have very similar teams to mine for the next 2 stages –

    ROGLIC
    NIBALI
    LANDA
    CARAPAZ
    LOPEZ
    CICCONE
    CARTHY
    MASNADA

    5 transfers remaining

     

    May 30, 2019 at 6:56 pm #941545
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    Gecko-cyclist

    I had 4 sprinters too but
    I had 4 sprinters too but given FDJs antics I was still rooting for the break – Great win for a local team. If FDJ didn’t want a sprint to protect the jersey, coming to the front in the last 2km made no sense. Horrible as it was to watch they should have stuck with their original plan and they might have kept it. They got what they deserved!

    May 30, 2019 at 4:01 pm #941543
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Demare blew it.

    What a total screw up from Groupama FDJ, serves then right.

    Badly. They were never committed to today…further interview this morning confirmed it. Is there an intermediate left that they can try for?

    Demare is now 13 points behind Ackermann.

    There is a sprint tomorrow that might be possible but he would need Ackermann not to score and then pick up 2 points in the ITT on Sunday.

    Saturdays intermediate sprint is after a mountain on the uphill start of the next mountain. So not much chance of scoring there.

    Well he’s no chance then. Ackerman  will just follow him.

    May 30, 2019 at 3:40 pm #941541
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Demare blew it.

    What a total screw up from Groupama FDJ, serves then right.

    Badly. They were never committed to today…further interview this morning confirmed it. Is there an intermediate left that they can try for?

    Demare is now 13 points behind Ackermann.

    There is a sprint tomorrow that might be possible but he would need Ackermann not to score and then pick up 2 points in the ITT on Sunday.

    Saturdays intermediate sprint is after a mountain on the uphill start of the next mountain. So not much chance of scoring there.

    May 30, 2019 at 3:24 pm #941539
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Demare blew it.

    What a total screw up from Groupama FDJ, serves then right.

    Badly. They were never committed to today…further interview this morning confirmed it. Is there an intermediate left that they can try for?

    May 30, 2019 at 3:18 pm #941537
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    MinardiM189

    Demare blew it.

    Demare blew it.

    What a total screw up from Groupama FDJ, serves then right.

    May 30, 2019 at 2:52 pm #941535
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    Dr Winston

    This is gonna be close….

    This is gonna be close….

    May 30, 2019 at 12:23 pm #941533
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    MinardiM189
    Sniffer wrote:
    Just the three riders up the road.  Sprint looks more likely.

    Just as well – I brought in four sprinters.

    Riders will possibly attack on the Cat4 climb and attempt to bridge to the break.

    May 30, 2019 at 12:03 pm #941531
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    Dr Winston
    Sniffer wrote:
    Just the three riders up the road.  Sprint looks more likely.

    Just as well – I brought in four sprinters.

    Just three for me. Leaves me with seven transfers left.

    May 30, 2019 at 11:31 am #941529
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    Sniffer

    Just the three riders up the

    Just the three riders up the road.  Sprint looks more likely.

    Just as well – I brought in four sprinters.

    May 30, 2019 at 8:33 am #941527
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Wel…yeah..agreed, kind off. The complicating factor is that Demare currently wears the pts jersey…it would suit them nicely if there was no sprint at all tomorrow wouldn’t it?…or do you think a stage win and risk losing that jersey if they lose on the day is more compelling?

    In yesterday’s press release Demare said – “we are strong and our clear goal is to bring back the cyclamen mailllot to verona. we do not know yet how we’re going to go about it, we’ll talk about it tonight.”

    If they are absolutley determined to win the jersey they won’t chase. Even if they get points at the intermediate sprint there is the possibility Ackermann wins and Demare finishes 3rd or 4th.

    If Groupama decide to let the break win, it would be a very negative way of winning a points jersey.

    I suppose the way the route has been planned was asking for this.

    I’ve brough 4 sprinters in anyway.

    May 30, 2019 at 12:15 am #941525
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Very hard to pick a breakaway rider…better off not bothering. 

    Demare would be happy to see 20 riders way out up front ….as would the GC boys…that only really leaves Bora to chase. ..unless of course Demare wants to try for a stage win but he’d risk his pts jersey. So basically the stage depends on Bora’s willingness to chase a break on a very long stage. 

    If FDJ aren’t chasing they will try and put someone decent in the break. If they do that Bora will do the same.

    Benedetti v Madouas for the stage?

    Personally I think Groupama will want another stage win and the blue jersey. You might even get Bora let Demare take some int. sprint points in return for help controlling the break.

    Groupama could help until the int sprint and then depending on the outcome refuse to help, there are still 62km after the 1st int. sprint.

     A team that has come to the Giro to win sprints is not going to turn down the opportunity of another win.

     

    Wel…yeah..agreed, kind off. The complicating factor is that Demare currently wears the pts jersey…it would suit them nicely if there was no sprint at all tomorrow wouldn’t it?…or do you think a stage win and risk losing that jersey if they lose on the day is more compelling?

    May 29, 2019 at 10:21 pm #941523
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Very hard to pick a breakaway rider…better off not bothering. 

    Demare would be happy to see 20 riders way out up front ….as would the GC boys…that only really leaves Bora to chase. ..unless of course Demare wants to try for a stage win but he’d risk his pts jersey. So basically the stage depends on Bora’s willingness to chase a break on a very long stage. 

    If FDJ aren’t chasing they will try and put someone decent in the break. If they do that Bora will do the same.

    Benedetti v Madouas for the stage?

    Personally I think Groupama will want another stage win and the blue jersey. You might even get Bora let Demare take some int. sprint points in return for help controlling the break.

    Groupama could help until the int sprint and then depending on the outcome refuse to help, there are still 62km after the 1st int. sprint.

     A team that has come to the Giro to win sprints is not going to turn down the opportunity of another win.

     

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