Handed in my Notice Today…

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

Are all cultures equal? This thread was started on the premise that they are not but Don only got annoyed when it was stated that the culture in the UK was superior to elsewhere, rather than the converse being true. I have been reading a bit of philosophy recently, essentially this argument boils down to whether there are objective criteria for judging the value of a culture or not. If, for example, a culture encourages genocide, is that always wrong or does it have to be considered on a case by case basis? If you agree that genocide is always wrong then, by definition, you agree that there are some cultural aspects that are objectively superior to others and that therefore cultures are not equal. Tolerance for people of different religions, ethnicities, sexualities etc is, in my opinion, an objective measure of a cultures value. By that measure the UK has a superior culture to the vast majority of countries on the planet. I don’t think there’s anything right or left wing about that belief.

Which culture (as a country) promotes genocide (for fuck’s sake!)? What a load of twaddle.

janusz0 wrote:

janusz0 wrote:

brimstone wrote:

I wasn’t a cyclist back then (in the ’70s); was driver aggression to cyclists just as rampant?

We had quiet empty roads *back in the ’70s. Drivers knew how to overtake. People seemed genuinely ashamed when they made a sub par driving manoeuvre. Local newspapers used to list the small number of motoring convictions every week. Hitch-hiking was very easy – what does that tell you about car driver’s attitudes? Life without a car or bicycle was much easier as buses and trains took you wherever you needed to go. (However, if you had mobility issues, life was very bleak.) The 1970s was when I got into cycling, utility and leisure – I had been a motorcycle pilot and car driver before then, but problems with the environment, including global warming, were important to me. Anyway, drivers were tolerant, the only sort of aggression would be the occasional driver putting their foot down for no apparent reason. There was plenty of carelessness: I was subject to two SMIDSYs in the 1970s, but I now cycle defensively and have only had one since then (in the 1980s). * I’ll admit that the centre of London was busy – but not choked like today. For example, much of the traffic along the Mile End/Whitechapel Road, during the day, would be moving at 50 mph! Outside the rush hour, it was much quicker to drive through the centre of London than to go around London, if you were a good navigator.

Drink driving was rife.  More people killed.  Yes car ownership was lower so roads were quieter in the 1970s, but it was hardly a ‘ better time to be alive’ than today.

don simon fbpe wrote:

What the fuck does this mean? Which cultures do you feel superior too? And why? I think I know where this is heading…

American and Singaporean, for two I’ve actually lived in. Which I just know you’ll be fine with.

brimstone wrote:

brimstone wrote:

I wasn’t a cyclist back then (in the ’70s); was driver aggression to cyclists just as rampant?

We had quiet empty roads *back in the ’70s. Drivers knew how to overtake. People seemed genuinely ashamed when they made a sub par driving manoeuvre. Local newspapers used to list the small number of motoring convictions every week. Hitch-hiking was very easy – what does that tell you about car driver’s attitudes? Life without a car or bicycle was much easier as buses and trains took you wherever you needed to go. (However, if you had mobility issues, life was very bleak.) The 1970s was when I got into cycling, utility and leisure – I had been a motorcycle pilot and car driver before then, but problems with the environment, including global warming, were important to me. Anyway, drivers were tolerant, the only sort of aggression would be the occasional driver putting their foot down for no apparent reason. There was plenty of carelessness: I was subject to two SMIDSYs in the 1970s, but I now cycle defensively and have only had one since then (in the 1980s).
* I’ll admit that the centre of London was busy – but not choked like today. For example, much of the traffic along the Mile End/Whitechapel Road, during the day, would be moving at 50 mph! Outside the rush hour, it was much quicker to drive through the centre of London than to go around London, if you were a good navigator.

I wasn’t a cyclist back then

I wasn’t a cyclist back then (in the ’70s); was driver aggression to cyclists just as rampant?

Fuck off and don’t come back!

Fuck off and don’t come back! My Nazi-Tory, anti-primary industry biker gang doesn’t want you in it anyway.

 

Moving to a different country

Moving to a different country in search of a better life, I completely understand. I’ve been there myself – several times in fact – in my younger days. I always came back to family, friends and shared culture – a culture that is, on balance, superior to any other I’ve lived in.

But, announcing your departure with such glee, telling other people that they will “wallow” in “paid slavery” in a “shithole” (which happens to have a general standard of living envied by most people in the world, but whatever), I just don’t understand. If Worcester is so bad, and Copenhagen is so great, can’t you just be happy that you are leaving, and save the insults for when you’re driven to frustration trying to get to grips with Danish?