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April 18, 2019 at 8:31 am #29558
Legs_Eleven_Worcester
Three months from now, it will be bye bye shithole Britain.
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FluffyKittenofTindalos
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
The definition of culture that you provided states that it refers to “the general customs and beliefs, of a particular group of people at a particular time”. It doesn’t require everybody to have the exact same beliefs or customs. It refers to the general customs and beliefs. I’ve clearly identified the groups of people in question. I’ve also clearly identified the points in time in question. You’re desperately trying to obsfucate the question in order to avoid answering it. As thinks stand you are arguing that the culture of Nazi-era Germany is equal to that of a modern liberal democracy. Do you wish to clarify your position or are you happy for that to be the last word on the matter?don simon fbpe wrote:So Nazi isn’t a country then. And your claim is that all Germans at that time were Nazis, is it? And that most certainly doesn’t reflect what I said, as you know. I’ll let you get the last word in, as that’s your style. Claim the win too, as that’s what you’ll do. And be happy that you’ve normailised calling the Welsh sheepshaggers and allowed to hsracr to be superior to whole nations while arguing with the wrong person. I can only help you so much.
But you are singling out a sub-culture. Hardly the same thing. Why not speak about the ‘culture’ of the Symbionese Liberation Army or the Manson family? Or of UKIP?
There’s a difference between ‘a culture’ in the sense of something that involves continuity over centuries, and the ‘culture’ of a particular sub-group of a society that exists for a relatively short period of time. But the whole concept of ‘culture’ is pretty damn fuzzy, anyway.
Furthermore, cultures don’t exist in isolation, they are completely intertwined with and connected to the material conditions and circumstances of their time and place. You couldn’t transplant contemporary internet culture to the early middle-ages, say.
Seems like a completely nonsensical argument over undefined terms.
In what way do the practical concequences change depending on which of you is ‘right’?
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
I’ve detailed your defence of their culture below. If you believe said culture to be inferior to others just say.don simon fbpe wrote:My last word is your apology for not being able to quote where I’m defending Nazis.
I’ll repeat, shall I, as you appear to be being a bit thick here. There is no place for Nazis (THERE YOU GO I’M NOT SAYING THAT ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL, but there might be equality in their validity much in the same way as I disgree with what you say but defend your right to say it, with caveats, etc.), Nazis do not represent the culture of Germany or Germans, they never have and you weren’t able to differentiate earlier (or, as usual, ignored this point). So go for it, give me the quote, put it up there where I’m defending Nazis. You can’t show Nazi as a country, you can’t show where I’ve defended Nazis. I suggest you apologise, if you’ve got the bollocks, that is, or go away and do something constructive. As for defending shrcar, you’re a further embarrassment.
Rich_cb
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:My last word is your apology for not being able to quote where I’m defending Nazis.
I’ve detailed your defence of their culture below.
If you believe said culture to be inferior to others just say.
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
The definition of culture that you provided states that it refers to “the general customs and beliefs, of a particular group of people at a particular time”. It doesn’t require everybody to have the exact same beliefs or customs. It refers to the general customs and beliefs. I’ve clearly identified the groups of people in question. I’ve also clearly identified the points in time in question. You’re desperately trying to obsfucate the question in order to avoid answering it. As thinks stand you are arguing that the culture of Nazi-era Germany is equal to that of a modern liberal democracy. Do you wish to clarify your position or are you happy for that to be the last word on the matter?don simon fbpe wrote:So Nazi isn’t a country then. And your claim is that all Germans at that time were Nazis, is it? And that most certainly doesn’t reflect what I said, as you know. I’ll let you get the last word in, as that’s your style. Claim the win too, as that’s what you’ll do. And be happy that you’ve normailised calling the Welsh sheepshaggers and allowed to hsracr to be superior to whole nations while arguing with the wrong person. I can only help you so much.
My last word is your apology for not being able to quote where I’m defending Nazis.
atgni
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Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:I can recommend The Establishment and How They Get Away With it, by Owen Jones.
Hahahaha, cos that would be a completely impartial read.Rich_cb
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:So Nazi isn’t a country then. And your claim is that all Germans at that time were Nazis, is it? And that most certainly doesn’t reflect what I said, as you know. I’ll let you get the last word in, as that’s your style. Claim the win too, as that’s what you’ll do. And be happy that you’ve normailised calling the Welsh sheepshaggers and allowed to hsracr to be superior to whole nations while arguing with the wrong person. I can only help you so much.
The definition of culture that you provided states that it refers to “the general customs and beliefs, of a particular group of people at a particular time”.
It doesn’t require everybody to have the exact same beliefs or customs. It refers to the general customs and beliefs.
I’ve clearly identified the groups of people in question. I’ve also clearly identified the points in time in question.
You’re desperately trying to obsfucate the question in order to avoid answering it.
As thinks stand you are arguing that the culture of Nazi-era Germany is equal to that of a modern liberal democracy.
Do you wish to clarify your position or are you happy for that to be the last word on the matter?
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
Nazi-era refers to the time. Germany refers to the place. Put the two together and you can then examine the culture. You can then decide if that culture is equal to the culture in modern day France. You can use the definition of culture you already provided. Give it a go. Still think they are equal?don simon fbpe wrote:Where’s Nazi? Which countries border Nazi? What is the currency of Nazi? Have you got any photos of Nazi? Google is currently struggling.
So Nazi isn’t a country then. And your claim is that all Germans at that time were Nazis, is it? And that most certainly doesn’t reflect what I said, as you know. I’ll let you get the last word in, as that’s your style. Claim the win too, as that’s what you’ll do. And be happy that you’ve normailised calling the Welsh sheepshaggers and allowed to hsracr to be superior to whole nations while arguing with the wrong person. I can only help you so much.
Rich_cb
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:Where’s Nazi? Which countries border Nazi? What is the currency of Nazi? Have you got any photos of Nazi? Google is currently struggling.
Nazi-era refers to the time. Germany refers to the place. Put the two together and you can then examine the culture.
You can then decide if that culture is equal to the culture in modern day France.
You can use the definition of culture you already provided.
Give it a go.
Still think they are equal?
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
You stated that the cultures of all countries were equal. You refused to elaborate any further despite repeated requests for you to do so, it therefore stands to reason that you believe the culture of Nazi era Germany is the equal of all others. Either admit that cultures are not equal or accept that you’re placing the cultures of horrific regimes as equal to those of modern liberal democracies. Your move.don simon fbpe wrote:You’re in absolute cuckooland there, mate. Put the quote up where I’ve defended Nazis or apologise. You can’t, you won’t so wind your fucking neck in.
Where’s Nazi? Which countries border Nazi? What is the currency of Nazi? Have you got any photos of Nazi? Google is currently struggling.
FluffyKittenofTindalos
Sniffer wrote:When was this wonderful time that we look back on with rose tinted nostalgia?The future was so much better in those days.
Rich_cb
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:You’re in absolute cuckooland there, mate. Put the quote up where I’ve defended Nazis or apologise. You can’t, you won’t so wind your fucking neck in.
You stated that the cultures of all countries were equal.
You refused to elaborate any further despite repeated requests for you to do so, it therefore stands to reason that you believe the culture of Nazi era Germany is the equal of all others.
Either admit that cultures are not equal or accept that you’re placing the cultures of horrific regimes as equal to those of modern liberal democracies.
Your move.
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
It takes such courage to swear at people anonymously on the internet. If only I was as brave as you I could accidentally defend Nazis while convincing myself I was doing the right thing.don simon fbpe wrote:Yes, you didn’t even have the balls to stand up to someone calling you a sheepshagger, you’re an embarrassement. Sort out your priorities.
You’re in absolute cuckooland there, mate. Put the quote up where I’ve defended Nazis or apologise. You can’t, you won’t so wind your fucking neck in.
Rich_cb
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:Yes, you didn’t even have the balls to stand up to someone calling you a sheepshagger, you’re an embarrassement. Sort out your priorities.
It takes such courage to swear at people anonymously on the internet.
If only I was as brave as you I could accidentally defend Nazis while convincing myself I was doing the right thing.
hawkinspeter
don simon fbpe wrote:
don simon fbpe wrote:
No, you’re a proud Welshman who’s happy to be called a [b]sheepshagger[/b], aren’t you?
Kinkshamer
don simon fbpe
Rich_cb wrote:
Rich_cb wrote:
Correct. At least you got one thing right today.don simon fbpe wrote:No, you’re a proud Welshman who’s happy to be called a sheepshagger, aren’t you?
Yes, you didn’t even have the balls to stand up to someone calling you a sheepshagger, you’re an embarrassement. Sort out your priorities.
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