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Cafe stop bike lock suggestions?

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  • February 27, 2019 at 12:02 pm #29402
    freetime101

    Hi All, 

    I appreciate I’m asking for the impossible here, but I’m sure many of you have looked for the same thing so I’m interested to see what you found…

    I need a small, lightweight but sturdy lock to secure my bike while going for a mid-ride coffee/pee etc. The bike won’t be locked up for long so I’m willing to compromise on the security of a D-lock but would like it to stand up to a set of pliers/side cutters/other pocketable tool. I know the right tools will get through any lock but it’s the opportunists I’m trying to avoid. 

    So what are my requirements? Well, I’d like it to be:

    Small and lightweight – I need it to either fit discretely into a jersey pocket/saddle bag or attach unobtrusivley to the bike (I know most locks come with a frame/saddle bracket but I don’t want a boat anchor swinging off the frame, or to be mocked by the cycling fashion police…)

    Sturdy, as above anything that can resist a pair of pliers/side cutters should do – hopefully nobody is carrying round bolt cutters or an angle grinder…

    Coated in plastic or rubber or something so it doesn’t damage my frame…

    Cheapish – I want to keep my bike safe but anything so small and lightweight is likey to get lost 

    Big enough to fit round the average lampost – no point locking the bike if it’s not attached to anything!

    I know there are several locks out their that seem to fit my criteria – but I don’t want to waste my money or risk my bike with something that doesn’t work!

    I’ll also do the usual, keep it in eyesight and next to a nicer bike – shouldn’t be too difficult!

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

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  • February 28, 2019 at 7:39 pm #936661
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    freetime101

    Team EPO wrote:

    Team EPO wrote:

    One thing I have learnt from the local skanks is put your bike upside down and in the hardest gear to make a swift steal a bit slower.

    And scratch my shifters?! 😀

    February 28, 2019 at 7:29 pm #936659
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    freetime101

    nniff wrote:

    nniff wrote:

    The thing about attaching a bike to something with a zip lock and a pedal is that it’s a pain to get to to cut off and doesn’t easily twist itself up to break and moves if subjected to a fierce tug.  If someone’s determined, it’s not going to work, but the aim is to stop an opportunist snatch from outside a cafe.  You can also open the front brake and undo the QR to turn an attempted snatch into a complete fiasco

    Good point, never really thought about locking a pedal as opposed to the frame but for a quick stop you’re right – probably more of a faff to undo than the frame…

    February 28, 2019 at 5:08 pm #936657
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    shufflingb

    I use a couple of different

    I use a couple of different lock types. If I wanted much beyond these then I don’t think it’d be the type of cafe/pub I’d really want to stop at 🙂

     

    HIPLOK Z-Lok Combo Armoured

    For the I just want something to stop the kids messing, opportunistic ride offs while I’m close at hand for say an hour or so, then I like the HIPLOK Z-Lok Combo Armoured

    + With care is just about long enough to wrap tightly around the frame and a bike stand or similar. 

    + When done up tight it can be made difficult to get bolt croppers, tin snips, or pry tools onto it effectively.

    + Three barrel combination lock

    + 70g

    + Easily coils up small enough to go in a jersey pocket or saddlebag.

     

    Fischer Coil Cable Alarm lock

    For something a little more secure I believe the best compromise between security and weight is to be had with an alarm lock. There are some awfully dodgy looking ones of these floating around, so be careful, but fwiw I’ve been using a Fischer Coil Cable Alarm lock for the last year or so, and I’m pretty pleased with it.

    – Alarm is not ear bleedingly loud and can be muffled somewhat with a hand if you are expecting it.

    +/- Just about small enough to go in a smallish saddle bag, but you’d not want it in a jersey pocket for any length of time.

    + Robust it’s survived crappy weather and seems reliable.

    + Long enough (1.2m) cable to wrap around things.

    + Detects being whacked (tested) or if the cable is cut (not tested).

    + Hasn’t given me grief with false alarms and can be used without the alarm when needed e.g. on back of car rack

    + Costs £26 and weighs in at 449g.

    February 28, 2019 at 4:19 pm #936655
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    fukawitribe
    HawkinsPeter wrote:
    fukawitribe wrote:
    Gallium is my favourite for certain locks, but needs a little more time.

    Aluminium locks only?

    Aye, but oh so pretty.

    February 28, 2019 at 3:47 pm #936653
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    hawkinspeter
    fukawitribe wrote:
    Gallium is my favourite for certain locks, but needs a little more time.

    Aluminium locks only?

    February 28, 2019 at 3:41 pm #936651
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    fukawitribe

    Gallium is my favourite for

    Gallium is my favourite for certain locks, but needs a little more time.

    February 28, 2019 at 3:10 pm #936649
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    hawkinspeter
    Team EPO wrote:
    Bit of a tangent but the kid lost the key to his flimsy bike lock, just bought a lock pick set and opened with ease!  Scarily easy.

    Cheap locks are surprisingly easy to lock pick with only a little skill (which is my current lock-picking skill). For a laugh, I borrowed a friend’s combination bike lock (4 digits – cheaply made) and prcoeeded to try opening it un-sighted (I was told what the combination might be). Took me all of about 10 seconds and then it turned out that my friend had no idea what the actual combination was.

    I like the look of the Ottolock, but only 3 digits would make it too easy. They also look susceptible to a shim attack.

    February 28, 2019 at 3:02 pm #936647
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    Team EPO

    Bit of a tangent but the kid

    Bit of a tangent but the kid lost the key to his flimsy bike lock, just bought a lock pick set and opened with ease!  Scarily easy.

    February 28, 2019 at 12:11 pm #936645
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    Kendalred

    I use one of these most of

    I use one of these most of the time – thicker and sturdier than one of those ‘coffee stop’ thin cables, but when coiled will easily fit into a back pocket, and it’s not too heavy.

    https://www.evanscycles.com/abus-combination-lock-1150-00104608

    February 28, 2019 at 12:00 pm #936643
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    Team EPO

    One thing I have learnt from

    One thing I have learnt from the local skanks is put your bike upside down and in the hardest gear to make a swift steal a bit slower.

     

    I use this ziplock thing which works well and is super light but easy to break as they just yank your bike but slows them down hopefully long enough to react.  2 for £15

    February 28, 2019 at 11:36 am #936641
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    nniff

    The thing about attaching a

    The thing about attaching a bike to something with a zip lock and a pedal is that it’s a pain to get to to cut off and doesn’t easily twist itself up to break and moves if subjected to a fierce tug.  If someone’s determined, it’s not going to work, but the aim is to stop an opportunist snatch from outside a cafe.  You can also open the front brake and undo the QR to turn an attempted snatch into a complete fiasco

    February 28, 2019 at 11:36 am #936639
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    nniff

    The thing about attaching a

    The thing about attaching a bike to something with a zip lock and a pedal is that it’s a pain to get to to cut off and doesn’t easily twist itself up to break and moves if subjected to a fierce tug.  If someone’s determined, it’s not going to work, but the aim is to stop an opportunist snatch from outside a cafe.  You can also open the front brake and undo the QR to turn an attempted snatch into a complete fiasco

    February 28, 2019 at 10:34 am #936637
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    freetime101

    Hmmm, some good suggestions

    Hmmm, some good suggestions thanks – is the hiplok zip tie strong enough to withstand a good yank? It certainly seems small and light enough but I wonder if the lock part would hold up, especially if using the bike as a big lever…

    The Ottolock is interesting but seems like it’s going to be expensive – it’s one to watch for a UK launch.

    The chain combo locks could be a winner, possibly a bit heavy for a jersey pocket but I gues compromises have to be made somewhere!

    Wrapping a bigger cable/chain around my waist is a good option for a pub run but I wouldn’t fancy it on a proper ride – clearly works though!

    February 27, 2019 at 8:55 pm #936635
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    ktache

    The Ottolock Hexband, on

    The Ottolock Hexband, on todays Live blog, could be perfect for you

    https://road.cc/content/news/256906-live-blog-man-drives-lorry-cyclist-attempts-attack-him-weapon-comes-worse-gbs

    February 27, 2019 at 5:19 pm #936633
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    HenHarrier

    I’ve done century rides with

    I’ve done century rides with a Kryptonite flex cable wrapped round me and a small padlock in my jersey pocket. Works well and we can loop four bikes together at the same time, making it much harder just to nick one and ride off.

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