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  • October 23, 2018 at 3:20 pm #29073
    RafatheRed

    Hi,After years of MTB i have now turned to road cycling. I made a massive mistake in buying the wrong size frame for my first road bike,however i have completed 3 sportives on it and have now decided to sell and buy a new stead. Im hoping to have £1700 to spend dependent on sell off curent bike.

    So im looking for comfort,disc and endurance riding.

    I have looked at the following rides –

    Giant Content SL1 Disc – £1250 -Love the colour and spec,but hate the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    Canyon Endurance AL Disc 7.0 – £1349 – Looks fantastic ,however im concerned with it as its an internet sale,no free service,what if it arrives faulty.

    Emonda ALR 5 Disc – £1750 – This looks a great bike which i would not have to upgrade,but is it ok for endurance riding?

    Giant Defy Advanced 3 – £1499 – Same brake system as Contend,Tiagra groupset

    Cannondale Synapse Disc 105 – Are theTektro Spyre-C cable actuated disc any good?

    Do i spend less and use spare cash to upgrade or spend more.

    My current bike is a CUBE ATTAIN SL – 105 throughout. I like 105 but is Tiagra ok.

     

    Thanks for any help

     

     

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  • October 29, 2018 at 9:09 pm #930065
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    RafatheRed

    Hi,yes I see it,love the
    Hi,yes I see it,love the colour of the Advanced 2. Same colour as my Giant Fathom MTB. Now do I speak to the wife……….

    October 29, 2018 at 8:12 pm #930063
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    Paul7189

    You can get the defy advanced

    You can get the defy advanced 3 for £1000 brand new on ebay. The same shop has a defy advanced 2 for £1250. I have the advanced 1 model and the hybrid brakes are actually really good. Also they come with some adaptors for mounting you computer and light on the conduct housing that actually takes your eyes off them!

    October 26, 2018 at 10:23 am #930061
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    gonedownhill

    Canyon everytime, just for

    Canyon everytime, just for the sexy electric blue if nothing else. 

    October 26, 2018 at 10:19 am #930059
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    BobbyG

    Any reason why you’re not

    Any reason why you’re not considering the Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 @ £1,699?

    October 26, 2018 at 9:45 am #930057
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    ibr17xvii

    I have the previous version

    I have the previous version of the Canyon which I would highly recommend, it’s an excellent bike for the money.

    Mine has 50/34 cranks which is what I usually run on a winter bike. Canyon must’ve changed to semi compact for 2019 so like you this would’ve been a concern for me but I still think I would’ve bought it.

    October 25, 2018 at 8:44 pm #930055
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    rdmp2

    Last comments from me. I

    Last comments from me. I think geometry, fit and liking the bike are more important than components. Pick a bike that fits you so is comfortable to ride and that you like the look of so you will want to go out and ride it

    October 25, 2018 at 8:24 pm #930053
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    RafatheRed

    Oh wow yea,the  R7020 brakes

    Oh wow yea,the  R7020 brakes are £400 plus.Too much for a brake upgrade me thinks on the Contend.I think i will do a live chat on the Canyon web site and ask questions 

    • Which 105 brakes are they using
    • What is the max tire width
    • Demo Days,when and where

    Its a 11/32 rear cassete im after,its what i have now.

    But wait………Focus Paralane 6.9. This looks good,but for the same price i could get Shimano Ultegra on the Canyon. Seems that the only way im going to get the brake set up im looking for is to go for a  Focus – £1659

    Frame 7005 hydroformed aluminum, disc, BSA BB, 142×12 mm through axle, RAT Evo technology, flat mount 140 mm, internal brake & gear cable routing
    Forks Carbon, disc, 100×12 mm RAT through axle, RAT Evo Technology, flat mount 140 mm, internal brake cable routing
    Rear Derailleur
    Shimano 105 R7000
    Shifters
    Shimano 105 R7020
    Freewheel
    Shimano 105, 11-34T
    Stem BBB Basic, aluminium, 31.8mm, +/- 7 degree
    Handlebars BBB Basic, Aluminium, drop: 125 mm, reach: 70mm
    Front Brake
    Shimano 105 R7020 hydraulic disc, 160 / 160 mm
    Rear Brake
    Shimano 105 R7020 hydraulic disc, 160 / 160 mm
    Wheelset Shimano WH-RS170, disc center-lock, aluminium, 100×12/142×12 mm, 28/28 spokes, 17 mm inner rim width
    Tyres Continental Ultra Sport II, 700 x 28C, Folding
    Saddle Velo VL-1489 Steel Rail
    Seatpost BBB Basic, Aluminium, 25,4mm, 350mm, set-back 20mm

     

    Or Canyon – £1649

    Frame Canyon Endurace AL Disc
    Fork Canyon One One Eight SL Disc
    Headset Acros AZX 214
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Ultegra, 11s
    Derailleur Hanger Derailleur Hanger for Road Discbrake Models/Inflite CF SLX
    Front Derailleur Shimano Ultegra, 11s
    Brake/Shift Levers Shimano Ultegra Disc, 11s
    Brakes Shimano Ultegra Disc
    Cassette Shimano Ultegra, 11s
    Wheelset Mavic Aksium Elite Disc UST
    Tyres Mavic Yksion Elite Guard
    Cranks Shimano Ultegra, 11s
    Chainrings 52 | 36
    Chain Shimano CN-HG600-11
    Bottom Bracket Shimano BSA

    October 25, 2018 at 6:59 pm #930051
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    rdmp2

    Could be wrong but for £200

    Could be wrong but for £200 likely to be the mechanical 105 shifters rather than hydraulic?

    The Canyon looks like it has the R7020 brakes- real 105 series so will be fine. Btw- I have the RS-405 and the brakes are great- just the bulbous shifters which are ugly.

    Given the Canyon comes with an 11-32 cassette it must have the long cage mech- could that take an 11-34 cassette? That gives you a low gear to match a compact with 11-32 (slightly bigger gaps).

    I’d probably buy the bike you like the look of the best then when you’ve had it a while and got a bit of cash get the gearing/braking set up as you would ideally like.

    Lastly- other options Focus Paralane 6.9, Rose Pro SL Disc

     

     

    RafatheRed wrote:
    rdmp2 wrote:
    A- yes but hydraulic shifters are the most expensive part of groupset so not cheap B- yes, but 105 chainrings are £45 each C- I think the emonda has a short cage mech so officially you need a new rear mech to fit a 32t sprocket D- see A
    RafatheRed wrote:

    Thanks for the advice on gear maintanance.

     Im think im looking for the perect bike which is just not there in the price range,all the bikes im looking at need changing lol

    A – Giant Content SL1 Disc –  Reallydont like the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    B- It seems the Cayon is most recommened. However i have just realised its a 52/36 chainring and not 50/34. I guess i can change that?  

    C – The Emonda has a 11/28 rear cassete ,im looking for a 11/32

    D – The Synapse – Again the braking system and crank (its FSA not 105) 

    I really need to test ride them.I know this.

     

     

    Shimano 105 R7000 Double 11-Speed STI Levers, Pair £200 i have seen. So with the 105 cranks  the Giant it would end up costing £1500.Would that be mad even thought i would be happy with the Contend 

    Not sure what 105 brakes the Canyon has,but if its the RS505 then ive only seen negative reports.

    October 25, 2018 at 6:38 pm #930049
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    RafatheRed

    rdmp2 wrote:

    rdmp2 wrote:
    A- yes but hydraulic shifters are the most expensive part of groupset so not cheap B- yes, but 105 chainrings are £45 each C- I think the emonda has a short cage mech so officially you need a new rear mech to fit a 32t sprocket D- see A
    RafatheRed wrote:

    Thanks for the advice on gear maintanance.

     Im think im looking for the perect bike which is just not there in the price range,all the bikes im looking at need changing lol

    A – Giant Content SL1 Disc –  Reallydont like the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    B- It seems the Cayon is most recommened. However i have just realised its a 52/36 chainring and not 50/34. I guess i can change that?  

    C – The Emonda has a 11/28 rear cassete ,im looking for a 11/32

    D – The Synapse – Again the braking system and crank (its FSA not 105) 

    I really need to test ride them.I know this.

     

     

    Shimano 105 R7000 Double 11-Speed STI Levers, Pair £200 i have seen. So with the 105 cranks  the Giant it would end up costing £1500.Would that be mad even thought i would be happy with the Contend 

    Not sure what 105 brakes the Canyon has,but if its the RS505 then ive only seen negative reports.

    October 25, 2018 at 5:55 pm #930047
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    rdmp2

    A- yes but hydraulic shifters
    A- yes but hydraulic shifters are the most expensive part of groupset so not cheap
    B- yes, but 105 chainrings are £45 each
    C- I think the emonda has a short cage mech so officially you need a new rear mech to fit a 32t sprocket
    D- see A

    RafatheRed wrote:
    Thanks for the advice on gear maintanance.

     Im think im looking for the perect bike which is just not there in the price range,all the bikes im looking at need something changing lol

    A – Giant Content SL1 Disc –  Reallydont like the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    B- It seems the Cayon is most recommened. However i have just realised its a 52/36 chainring and not 50/34. I guess i can change that?  

    C – The Emonda has a 11/28 rear cassete ,im looking for a 11/32

    D – The Synapse – Again the braking system and crank (its FSA not 105) 

    I really need to test ride them.I know this.

     

     

    October 25, 2018 at 5:31 pm #930045
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    Joe Totale
    RafatheRed wrote:
    Thanks for the advice on gear maintanance.

     Im think im looking for the perect bike which is just not there in the price range,all the bikes im looking at need something changing lol

    A – Giant Content SL1 Disc –  Reallydont like the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    B- It seems the Cayon is most recommened. However i have just realised its a 52/36 chainring and not 50/34. I guess i can change that?  

    C – The Emonda has a 11/28 rear cassete ,im looking for a 11/32

    D – The Synapse – Again the braking system and crank (its FSA not 105) 

    I really need to test ride them.I know this.

     

     

     

    A cassette is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to change then a crankset. However the Canyon has a 11-32 casette on the back with the 52-36 crank. 

    IMO that combo will get you up any hill without too much trouble, in fact I ride it myself on my winter bike and I really like it. If you buy the Canyon I’d give the 52/36 a good go first before thinking of spending all that money on replacing it. 

    October 25, 2018 at 5:22 pm #930043
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    RafatheRed
    philhubbard wrote:
    I would have a word with the chaps at Cycle Division (https://www.cycledivision.co.uk/sale?p=2) they currently have a lot of stock of last seasons bikes. They would be able to do a bikefit and recommend you if you can go to there store or give you info online. You could probably get hydraulic discs if you look at sale items

     I took a look at the website.This shop is 3 hours away from me,however just happens to be near Loughborough where i will be visiting in a couple of weekends.I see they do Cannondale and Scott which i know nothing about.Does not look like they have the Synapse 105 in stock and not sure they do full hydro systems.Thanks for the tip.

     

    October 25, 2018 at 5:00 pm #930041
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    RafatheRed

    Thanks for the advice on gear

    Thanks for the advice on gear maintanance.

     Im think im looking for the perect bike which is just not there in the price range,all the bikes im looking at need something changing lol

    A – Giant Content SL1 Disc –  Reallydont like the look of the conduct system. Can i change this to full hydro?.Also cranks not 105

    B- It seems the Cayon is most recommened. However i have just realised its a 52/36 chainring and not 50/34. I guess i can change that?  

    C – The Emonda has a 11/28 rear cassete ,im looking for a 11/32

    D – The Synapse – Again the braking system and crank (its FSA not 105) 

    I really need to test ride them.I know this.

     

     

    October 25, 2018 at 4:29 pm #930039
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    hawkinspeter
    RafatheRed wrote:
    srchar wrote:
    That free 6 week service at a LBS will consist of indexing the gears, inflating the tyres and, if you’re lucky, retorquing a few bolts. With hydraulic discs, they wouldn’t even need to adjust the brakes.

    Not having it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest and, if you can’t DIY, use it as a learning opportunity or budget £30 at your LBS.

    Hi,I could do the brakes,tryes and bolts.Just not the gears. I have tried a few times. Ok so the service thing is not the issue now.

    Gears aren’t really that difficult. Watch a couple of youtube videos on how to do it first and then start tweaking the gears. For a 6 week service, it should only be a case of tightening the cable slightly to allow for the initial cable stretching – you shouldn’t need to adjust the limit screws.

    It’s well worth learning how to do it.

    October 25, 2018 at 4:09 pm #930037
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    RafatheRed
    srchar wrote:
    That free 6 week service at a LBS will consist of indexing the gears, inflating the tyres and, if you’re lucky, retorquing a few bolts. With hydraulic discs, they wouldn’t even need to adjust the brakes.

    Not having it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest and, if you can’t DIY, use it as a learning opportunity or budget £30 at your LBS.

    Hi,I could do the brakes,tryes and bolts.Just not the gears. I have tried a few times. Ok so the service thing is not the issue now.

     

     

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