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When to change internal cables?

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  • October 17, 2018 at 6:01 pm #29057
    Griff500

    Externally routed cable – no problem, a few quid, 20 minutes, job done. Internally routed cables? PITA, but a bigger PITA if they snap.  My good bike rarely gets wet, and has just crossed the 5,000 mile mark. When should the inners be replaced, and I guess equally important, what about the outer sheath?

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  • November 21, 2018 at 8:09 am #929457
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    Griff500

    huntswheelers wrote:

    huntswheelers wrote:

    vonhelmet wrote:
    I think shimano fixed the shifter snapping issue. It was a major problem with 5700 / 6700 but they changed things up for 5800 / 6800 and I think that sorted it.

     

    Nope…. still get the 58/6800 in for snapped off at the nipple….  many are found early (as I take a look now) and some are found with just a few strands left connecting the cable to the nipple….. 


    Mine is a 2016 bike with 6800. Broke at the shifter.

    November 20, 2018 at 9:03 pm #929455
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    Canyon48

    The new STI’s seem pretty bad
    The new STI’s seem pretty bad for wrecking cables (5800 6800 r7000 and r8000) I’d recommend changing inner gear cables every 3k miles.

    I had two snap both around 3k miles.

    November 20, 2018 at 8:49 pm #929453
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    huntswheelers
    vonhelmet wrote:
    I think shimano fixed the shifter snapping issue. It was a major problem with 5700 / 6700 but they changed things up for 5800 / 6800 and I think that sorted it.

     

    Nope…. still get the 58/6800 in for snapped off at the nipple….  many are found early (as I take a look now) and some are found with just a few strands left connecting the cable to the nipple….. 

    November 18, 2018 at 9:57 pm #929451
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    simonmb

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:

    I used the big ring to get me to the nearest cafe, then phoned mission control to send a rescue shuttle.

    I once suffered the misfortune of puncturing front and back (tubulars) simultaneously at the end of a 120km ride – but right in front of my favourite café.

    Mind you, a cortado and biscotti did nothing to take the sting out of the fact that they were silk-lined FMBs.

    November 18, 2018 at 7:25 pm #929449
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    janusz0

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    janusz0 wrote:

     

    Griff500, what everyone will want to know is: where exactly was the break?

    Half a k South of Simiane la Rotonde.

    Nice evasion. (Not the town, the question!)

    Haute Provence eh?  Some riders have all the luck!

    November 18, 2018 at 5:37 pm #929447
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    Griff500

    janusz0 wrote:

    janusz0 wrote:

    Griff500, what everyone will want to know is: where exactly was the break?


    Half a k South of Simiane la Rotonde.

    November 18, 2018 at 5:13 pm #929445
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    janusz0

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    Oh the irony! A month after making this post, and allowing myself to be persuaded by you lot not to worry, my shifter and RD ceased cooperating with each other 20 miles from home. 8600km recorded on the bike since new. Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio. There was no advance warning (roughness or dodgy shifts)

    Hubris?

    Griff500, what everyone will want to know is: where exactly was the break and would you recommend the café?

    November 18, 2018 at 3:09 pm #929443
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    Mungecrundle

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Griff500 wrote:
    … Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio…

    You cross chained all the way home? Any true English gentleman of breeding would have left it in the big ring and risen to the challenge, willing to sacrifice cartiledge and sinew to do the right thing.


    Afraid not. I used the big ring to get me to the nearest cafe, then phoned mission control to send a rescue shuttle.

    Honour restored.

    November 18, 2018 at 3:06 pm #929441
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    Griff500

    Mungecrundle wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    Griff500 wrote:
    … Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio…

    You cross chained all the way home? Any true English gentleman of breeding would have left it in the big ring and risen to the challenge, willing to sacrifice cartiledge and sinew to do the right thing.


    Afraid not. I used the big ring to get me to the nearest cafe, then phoned mission control to send a rescue shuttle.

    November 18, 2018 at 2:32 pm #929439
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    Mungecrundle

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    … Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio…

    You cross chained all the way home? Any true English gentleman of breeding would have left it in the big ring and risen to the challenge, willing to sacrifice cartiledge and sinew to do the right thing.

    November 18, 2018 at 12:09 pm #929437
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    StraelGuy

    I changed all the internal

    I changed all the internal cables on my Giant recently. This led to the best bit of advice I could give anybody about cable inners if you’re fitting new brifters. DON’T use the Shimano inners they come with, the inners that have that weird flakey coating. When you eventually come to remove them, this coating sheds and completely bungs up all the tiny holes you need to get inners in and out of. Bin them and use bog standard stainless inners instead.

    November 18, 2018 at 11:49 am #929435
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    matthewn5

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    Oh the irony! A month after making this post, and allowing myself to be persuaded by you lot not to worry, my shifter and RD ceased cooperating with each other 20 miles from home. 8600km recorded on the bike since new. Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio. There was no advance warning (roughness or dodgy shifts)

    That sounds like the cable end came off in the shifter.

    November 18, 2018 at 11:39 am #929433
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    Griff500

    Oh the irony! A month after
    Oh the irony! A month after making this post, and allowing myself to be persuaded by you lot not to worry, my shifter and RD ceased cooperating with each other 20 miles from home. 8600km recorded on the bike since new. Not much fun being left with only a 36/11 gear ratio. There was no advance warning (roughness or dodgy shifts)

    October 20, 2018 at 8:18 pm #929431
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    vonhelmet

    I think shimano fixed the

    I think shimano fixed the shifter snapping issue. It was a major problem with 5700 / 6700 but they changed things up for 5800 / 6800 and I think that sorted it.

    October 20, 2018 at 7:29 pm #929429
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    huntswheelers

    I always advise customers on

    I always advise customers on 105/Ultegra to swap out cables annually (obvs I know who put the miles in) to save the Shifter snap issue… always these 2 japanses shifters… 

    As for internal cables…. apart from the above caveat, it’s bike dependent… a certain manufacturer/online retailer in Sheffield has some routing issues under the Bottom Bracket to derailleurs but I only see it as I have the bikes stripped out… most only need new cables when the old ones (if galvanised) break out and drag inside the housing (common on some of the so called “brands”) …other than that…. it’s owners preference or what is seen at service and customer advised before replacing

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