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August 16, 2018 at 9:23 pm #28849
longassballs
Canyon have updated their Grail range already but across the range the bikes are all 200g heavier. I can’t seem to work out why. What am I missing?
I’m comparing between old & new 105 and Ultegra models. Sram is new for 2019. All the spec looks the same with the exception of tan walled Schwalbes. Have they changed the frame, or even their famed ‘hover bar’?
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andyjtiger
I had exactly the same bike
I had exactly the same bike on order. Ordered early September with delivery due first week December. Week before delivery came the email delaying until end February/Early March.
Cancelled within the hour and got a Giant Revolt on order from my LBS. Won’t be going near Canyon anytime soon, thats for sure.
Kadinkski
Weynb wrote:I ordered a CF 8.0 SL as well, at the start of September, with a delivery date of first week in December. Having heard nothing I contacted Canyon yesterday – during the second week in Dec. – who told me that the bike would now not be ready until 1st week in March. This has screwed up my plans and needless to say I’m really p**sed off with both the delay and complete lack of info from their customer services. By the time I get the bike (if I don’t cancel the order) I’ll have waited 6 months for it and they will be announcing the 2020 models a few months later!That’s astoundingly bad customer service, even for them. You’re mad if you don’t cancel the order.
Weynb
I ordered a CF 8.0 SL as well
I ordered a CF 8.0 SL as well, at the start of September, with a delivery date of first week in December. Having heard nothing I contacted Canyon yesterday – during the second week in Dec. – who told me that the bike would now not be ready until 1st week in March. This has screwed up my plans and needless to say I’m really p**sed off with both the delay and complete lack of info from their customer services. By the time I get the bike (if I don’t cancel the order) I’ll have waited 6 months for it and they will be announcing the 2020 models a few months later!
I ordered the CF 8.0 SL
I ordered the CF 8.0 SL exactly 9 days ago in size M. On the site it showed availability for delivery mid December. Literally 3 minutes after hitting the button I received a mail mentioning delivery in the week of Feb 25 – 1 March. Not that I’m pining away waiting for the bike but still….
MTBRider456
@longassballs Can’t remember
@longassballs Can’t remember the exact spec – not the top end carbon frame, but the next carbon frame down, Di2, alloy rims. In grey + Large.
Gravel Garry
Gravelx21 wrote:Grayl wrote:It also has 140mm disc rotors instead of 160mm and a 52/36 crank instead of 50/34.I was a little confused when I received the bike with a 52/36 as every website spec states 50/34… not as versatile for the type of riding really. Enquired with Canyon and they say it’s an error on the website apparently.
I was surprised (and not happy) when my XS Grail arrived with a 52/36. I complained to Canyon and they sent me a 50/34 replacement for free.
What bike did you order?
What bike did you order? Guess it doesn’t sound good for my copper 8.0 M due early Feb.The mudguards still haven’t appeared either
My date for Mid November
My date for Mid November moved last week to early March 2019……I thought Canyon had grown out of this?
brettoau
Well the estimated completion
Well the estimated completion date of mid Nov for my Grail has just been delayed 3 weeks. Now I don’t know if I will receive it in Australia by the time I leave on my cycling holiday just before Xmas. May have to cancel the order if so 🙁
Grayl
Congratulations on your order
Congratulations on your order longassballs. Good to hear the mudguards are coming soon. If you want a Grail sooner and if you’d be happy with a 2018 SLX 8.0 Di2 model they have various sizes available in the Outlet section of the website. They’re called “Pure Cycling” which is apparently the name of the brand in Switzerland. Instead of “Canyon” on the downtube they have “Grail”. I guess they may have the brake levers configured the opposite way round from UK norm if they were built for the Swiss market.
Saw the 2018 bike at Rapha in
Saw the 2018 bike at Rapha in Manchester last weekend. Was one of those things though where there were 6 bikes and 6 staff in a big room and couldn’t just look at the bikes. I still wasn’t convinced about the bars swapping where the compliance was. The Canyon lad said the drops were now super stiff for sprinting but I said when would I be sprinting on this bike?Said I was also interested in an Aeroad but would probably wait for a new version. He frowned and answered that there definitely wasn’t one in the pipeline. I countered that the design is four years old and was prepared to wait a year or two. He still stridently denied it which made me doubt anything else he had to say. Though apparently the Grail mudguards are made by Topeak, out soon and have what he called full coverage – which I took to be longer than most proprietary fenders but not as long as actual full coverage. Not that I was expecting them to be anyway.
Saying all that… I came home and ordered a 8.0 Grail! Still not sure but saw that the delivery date had stretched to start if Feb and was totally unaware that you didn’t have to pay until the due date. Seems ages away, but I guess it also gives me plenty of time to cancel if I change my mind…
Hi, just to clarify, it is
Hi, just to clarify, it is the size 2XS and XS that come with 650B wheels, 140mm rotors and 52/36 crank. I believe the size S and above come with the specs on the website.
Longassballs, I bought the bike because of everything else about it and despite the cockpit but I do like the ability to hook my thumbs over the lower joint with the horizontal part when on descents. I spend most of the time on the hoods which are no different from those on a conventional handlebar. I haven’t really tested the tops much yet so haven’t noticed much difference from normal ones.
Thanks for the thoughts about mudguard fit. Please let us know how you get on with your mudguard fitting.
Oh! Forgot to ask! How the
Oh! Forgot to ask! How the hell do those bars ride?Yeah that is weird. I didn’t
Yeah that is weird. I didn’t pick that detail up when Grayl first posted it. Sounds like they ran out of 50/34 cranks? Not sure about the 40t cassette for myself. Originally I wanted it to pull double duty as a winter road bike but I’ve just bought a Felt VR for that, so maybe bigger jumps between the cogs won’t be such an issue. Actually reconsidering whether I need a double at all…Grayl, useful information, thanks. I don’t think the front mounts will be a problem. Fitted a pair of mudguards before with eyelets half way up the inside of the fork and it was fine, just a little more unstable than if they were at the dropouts. Issue for you on an XS may be toe overlap only.
As for the rear, yeah, that’s more unusual. *Might* again be more of a problem for you on a smaller bike as I have read that often a plastic temporary seat stay bridge is supplied as a fixing point but as per a comment at the bottom of this article (long read) https://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/221187-12-best-mudguard-compatible-carbon-fibre-road-bikes#comment-1523979 this guy had no end of problems with only one size for medium/larger bikes made by BMC. The launch photos of the grail didn’t look like they used a temp bridge though, from memory. I’m about to deal with manufacturers own mudguards myself as I will be trying to fit Felt’s own mudguards on my new bike when I get it. Then all these own brand mudguards seem to be really short and leave you looking for a DIY mud flap solution.
Canyon are having some sort of event in the Rapha store in Manchester this weekend so I’m gonna go take a look myself at their range. Good op for anyone in the area
Gravelx21
Grayl wrote:It also has 140mm disc rotors instead of 160mm and a 52/36 crank instead of 50/34.I was a little confused when I received the bike with a 52/36 as every website spec states 50/34… not as versatile for the type of riding really. Enquired with Canyon and they say it’s an error on the website apparently.
Went out and fitted a 11-40T M8000 cassette and now over the moon with the cranks, flys on the flat and spins up hill. Running Di2 and the bike accepts the larger range cassette by just adjusting the B screw for anyone who’s interested. (Cage isn’t stretched either because of the derailleur length + standard extender)
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