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March 15, 2018 at 12:54 pm #28254
Psycheonabike
Hi,
Took out my Scott Speedster for a ride recently – I usually am an off roader but it was great being on the road and having a proper workout. Tyres are a bit ‘Gravelly’ for me and think I’d ride better with thinner ones. What do you advise?
Thanks…
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Boatsie
Cheers froze, makes me
Cheers froze, makes me happier knowing the liners are plastic. Unlike rubbish, they contour well, remain within tyre and will easily find the recycling bin later; much later. They will hot pot recycle easy.
As too cutting liners, I wouldn’t bother as overlap doesn’t harm performance and the slight weight is nearer nothing compared to the other side of the circle when used to counter reflector or such.
Anyway, congratulations with cycling Psyche, I’m wondering if the Brits will let me migrate. Paddling holy head to isle of Mann would be a loveable chore. Last time I visited a tropical cousin of great white washed up on a cold Devon beach. I thought it was funny because when the destroyer class ship was locally launched, my friends son; a disendant of Sir Lancealot rolled into the water and a copper boat plucked him from. Then 2 months later a great white 4.5 leapt from waters in front of camera/s.
I’m amazed, I had been walking around about 10-20 years thinking everyone was a wizard yet hid such such like sex.
Cycling /walking/canoeing/swimming; concentrated exercise is best in case incoming incoming.
Nice high rocks where some of you guys live, perfect too incubate a dragon.
Psyched ya; enjoy brother.
Trumps a championPsycheonabike
StraelGuy wrote:Really pleased you enjoyed it! You might want to edit your post though, 25 meters isn’t that impressive around here
.Doh!!!!
StraelGuy
Really pleased you enjoyed it
Really pleased you enjoyed it! You might want to edit your post though, 25 meters isn’t that impressive around here
.Psycheonabike
All great advice thanks.
All great advice thanks.
Though to be honest I did my first 25miles on my first Road Bike on Saturday and it was great! I put Conti Ultra Sports on but as its my first road ride I couldn’t offer a review. I was surprised at how ‘sticky’ they felt after being broken in though.
🙂
froze
I would not go with Conti 4
I would not go with Conti 4 Seasons or other such high priced Contis, why? because there are a lot of tires on the market today that are just as good, if not better, for at least a third of the cost for Conti’s. And the Conti Ultrasport don’t even have flat protection in them, what did you expect for $9? At least with a Schwalbe Lugano K-Guard folding tire it has a flat protection belt and it only cost $15. The prices I’m quoting came from Ribbles based on US dollar.
Now on to liners, Mr Tuffy are not kevlar or aramid they are polyurethane, not that it really matters but poly seems to work better then kevlar or aramid but at a cost of more weight. I don’t like Mr Tuffy because they don’t trim the ends smooth so they don’t rub a hole into the tube as you ride, I aways had to sand down the ends myself to prevent that. Now a newer liner called RhinoDillos have put a soft plyable end on their liner which prevents the liner from rubbing a hole into the tube, and from reviews and test they may be better at stopping flats then the Mr Tuffy.
Don’t waste your money on thorn resistant tubes, they had a lot of weight to a wheel and do very little to stop flats, so just use your normal tubes, a decent tire, and a liner if you want to have miles of virtual flat free riding. Almost forgot, always add talic or baby powder to tubes before installing, this actually decreases rolling resistance a tad.
robscan1
paulrattew wrote:If you’re an offroader who is used to running tubeless, and the rims you have are tubeless ready, then I would suggest something like schwalbe pro-one tyres or the 300mm schwalbe G-one tyres if you can fit them.Assuming the rims you have are not tubeless ready, then I’d go for conti GP4000Sii tyres, which are generally very highly regarded
I bought a pair of the GP 400 SII and whilst even to my untuned sensibilities they rolled incredibly well, two rides resulted in 2 punctures and that was the end of that, as they were a proper nightmare to get on and off my wheels (HED Ardennes Plus). At that point I decided tubeless was the way forward as these wheels were tubeless ready and I haven’t looked back since.
robscan1
StraelGuy wrote:I’d deffo go for 25 or 28mm. Continental Ultrasport and Grand Prix are both very good if you don’t want to spend top dollar. Grand Prix 4000 S II are as good as it gets if you want to push the boat out. Have a look here, it’s an interesting read.I bought a pair of the GP 400 SII and whilst even to my untuned sensibilities they rolled incredibly well, two rides resulted in 2 punctures and that was the end of that, as they were a proper nightmare to get on and off my wheels (HED Ardennes Plus). At that point I decided tubeless was the way forward as these wheels were tubeless ready and I haven’t looked back since.
Psycheonabike
Thanks.
Thanks.And 120psi….blimey! That’s another newbie thread!
StraelGuy
A general ‘average’ is 40-42
A general ‘average’ is 40-42 mm for non-aero rims.
Psycheonabike
What size presta valve should
What size presta valve should I get for my bike? Is there a rule of thumb?d_jp
I use those inner tubes &
I use those inner tubes & also run 25c tyres, although whilst they’re £6 at Halfords, half that price at either of these shops… (depending upon where is easiest for you to get to – Evans have shops all over the UK) 🙂
https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Continental/Race-28-Inner-Tube-700×18-25-42mm-Presta/WBF
https://www.evanscycles.com/continental-race-28-700c-presta-valve-inner-tube-EV270746
Boatsie
Note: the liners are longer
Note: the liners are longer than the inner circumference of the tyre. I think we’re supposed to snip them too length but I recon it’s easier to overlap the liner. Whoop whoop regarding extra weight at overlap and tyre unbalance. Overlapping opposite the reflector should counter such good enough. If she shakes at high speed her knot might be too stirred up.
Boatsie
mike the bike wrote:
mike the bike wrote:Boatsie wrote:…… If liner was there the tube wouldn’t have known the prick ……Aah, how often have I heard those words.
I love ’em.
Yes extra weight. Yet only grams and heavier =more momentum down hill hence less effort to push more wind.
They’re excellent because not only are they extra tyre thickness, being compressed between tube and tyre and made of Kevlar means that if the smart prick that has penetrated her outer skin gets through then the ultra tough liner will contour such prick protecting her tube from becoming impregnated with thorns and our roads filth.
Honestly really worth using. The only puncture I’ve had using a liner was 5mm worth of solid thorn and although very sharp the tube deflation rate was about 4-6 hours.
Anyway, at least your using a rubber, heaps cheaper if you don’t impregnate the tube. Lol
mike the bike
Boatsie wrote:
Boatsie wrote:…… If liner was there the tube wouldn’t have known the prick ……Aah, how often have I heard those words.
Boatsie
https://rover.ebay.com/rover
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F121150901326These are expensive yet great. LBS was cheaper than flea bay. Used tyres until 100s km past no tread. Very rarely punctures. Last puncture was with wheel that didn’t have a liner. If liner was there the tube wouldn’t have known the prick.
I don’t know if I’ve done the correct thing but I put a 35mm liner into my latest 28mm tyre figuring it would absorb along wall a bit.
Easy as too use. Reusable.23-28mm tube is a pretty decent size.
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