Buying Cheap Chinese from AliExpress

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    Canyon48

    Anyone done it – thoughts?

    I’m just looking at a Cairbull aero TT helmet with a built in magnetic visor for £18 with free postage.

    That way better than anything I can either get second hand here!

    I realise the CE mark is most likely rubbish, not that it bothers me, it’s not like a helmet is actually going to be of much protection in anything more than a light bump anyway – but lets not start the helmet debate.

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  • #913297
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    Canyon48
    alansmurphy wrote:
    Peow

     

    I’ve got those massive chinese lights that burn down houses but thus far mine have only got so far as drinking cider in the park!

     

    As with Wellsprop, I just use some common sense and only plug them in when attended to. I’ve also heard that Samsung had issues with exploding phones and many other electrical manufacturers can have issues.

     

    I’d say on a daily basis we all make cost/benefit/risk decisions. I’m pretty hopeful that next time I fly over the handlebars (once every 5 years) that the glasses will once again fly clear and or not shatter towards my eyes. I also wonder if the extra £127 for the pair of Oakley’s is all spent on this extensive safety measure you’re imagining – do your glasses have hi-vis and a helmet?

    +1

    I would also suggest that my decision to pursue road cycling, and getting massive enjoyment from descending hills at 45+ mph (where it’s reasonable to do so), far outweighs the risk I would be presented if I were to wear a pair of sub-standard glasses.

    But I feel like if I didn’t take a few considered risks i.e. road cycling (and push myself to the edges of my comfort zone) I’d become fairly unhappy and bored – after all, all I would do otherwise is sit at a computer running CAD/CFD and stare at spreadsheets. That and fly aeroplanes and do aerobatics and stuff – that’s fun too.

     

    #913295
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    alansmurphy

    Peow

    Peow

     

    I’ve got those massive chinese lights that burn down houses but thus far mine have only got so far as drinking cider in the park!

     

    As with Wellsprop, I just use some common sense and only plug them in when attended to. I’ve also heard that Samsung had issues with exploding phones and many other electrical manufacturers can have issues.

     

    I’d say on a daily basis we all make cost/benefit/risk decisions. I’m pretty hopeful that next time I fly over the handlebars (once every 5 years) that the glasses will once again fly clear and or not shatter towards my eyes. I also wonder if the extra £127 for the pair of Oakley’s is all spent on this extensive safety measure you’re imagining – do your glasses have hi-vis and a helmet?

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    Canyon48
    Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:
    wellsprop wrote:
    I certainly wouldn’t buy any carbon fibre components that weren’t from a reputable manufacturer! As for non vital stuff, lights, mounts, helmets, glasses etc, I’ll give it a go :p

    Brilliant, so you’ll buy cheapo lights with batteries and electronics designed by heaven knows who.  Electronics that could easily burn your house down.  And you’ll buy cheap glasses that may fracture on impact and blind you (good glasses don’t do this).

    But you won’t buy cheap carbon components because that’s dodgy.

    Comments like yours are why we need regulations and standards.  And laws to protect the stupid from themselves.

    I think there’s an important distinction to be made between safety critical components (such as wheels and frames and accessories (glasses and lights).

    I also forgot to mention I don’t actually wear my fake Oakleys on my bike (I wear my Dhb glasses) :p Nor have I bought any cheap lights from China – not saying I wouldn’t though (if I wanted a super bright light for mountain biking for example).

    Suppose both were sub-standard; the bike wheel failed when hitting a pothole and the bike glasses shattered on impact – both have fairly nasty results. The main difference is, the chance of crashing face first and the glasses breaking is vastly lower than the chance of hitting a pothole causing a wheel failure. So it’s understandable a lot of people would take that risk with a pair of glasses (again, I never said I wear fake glasses cycling!).

    I must admit, I tend to be ridiculously OTT with charging Lion batteries – I won’t leave them (or their chargers) plugged in unattended.

     

     

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    Accessibility for all

    wellsprop wrote:

    wellsprop wrote:
    I certainly wouldn’t buy any carbon fibre components that weren’t from a reputable manufacturer! As for non vital stuff, lights, mounts, helmets, glasses etc, I’ll give it a go :p

    Brilliant, so you’ll buy cheapo lights with batteries and electronics designed by heaven knows who.  Electronics that could easily burn your house down.  And you’ll buy cheap glasses that may fracture on impact and blind you (good glasses don’t do this).

    But you won’t buy cheap carbon components because that’s dodgy.

    Comments like yours are why we need regulations and standards.  And laws to protect the stupid from themselves.

    #913289
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    Canyon48
    matthewn5 wrote:
    I wouldn’t compromise on glasses. Dark lenses that have zero UV protection will fry your eyes. And you only get one pair of eyes. Seriously. I have enough problems already with my eyes.

    It’s a bit hit or miss with sunglasses, Panorama looked into it and found a lot of fake sunglasses provided 100% UV A B and C protection. I tested my fake Oakleys (bought them for 3 quid in Turkey because mine broke on holiday) on a UV machine at work and the blocked all UV light. Obviously some provide little to no protection.

    As I’m only going to be using the helmet occasionally, for short TT’s, I can’t say I’m overly worried…

    #913287
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    matthewn5

    I wouldn’t compromise on

    I wouldn’t compromise on glasses. Dark lenses that have zero UV protection will fry your eyes. And you only get one pair of eyes. Seriously. I have enough problems already with my eyes.

    #913285
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    Canyon48

    I certainly wouldn’t buy a

    I certainly wouldn’t buy a carbon frame or carbon wheels not from a reputable manufacturer!

    As for the helmet, well too many people seem o be assuming a helmet is actually going to be of any significant help… (I do always wear a helmet, much for the same reason I wear gloves, if I fall off it’ll prevent too much scarring and probably a bit of bruising – at the same time I realise, if I get run over, a helmet isn’t going to “save my life”).

    #913283
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    Anonymous
    risoto wrote:
    I don’t understand how one can even think about buying carbon bikes and parts from totally unknown sources in China. It takes expertise to produce carbon. There was an article on an american web site about copy  carbon bikes – among others a Trek or Specialized costing around 5.000 pounds retail that was sold for less than half that price. Two guys almost got killed and they were guys that had the money to buy the real deal. One broke his handlebar while just going downhill – he was very very lucky  to survive. The other example was a guy just riding along and the frame broke. He also barely survived.

    It appears that some employes had taken photos of the production proces and starting producing their own carbon frames and parts. Of course they didn’t have the knowledge nor the experise to produce anything safe.

    I would never compromise on a helmet either. You might just end up in a wheelchair instead of just walking away. The lure of a discount is strong and its your life, but use your brain while you have it.

    Some chinese stuff is ok and one frame becomes many brands with new paint jobs. Most china direct stuff I’ve bought, from arcade joystick kits to bibsets has been fine. It’s not ‘as good’ but good enough. I doubt anything Planet X sells is any better than Aliexpress as I’ve had a bibset I’ve worn regulary for 3 years and it’s still going strong for £17. Then again as you may have guessed, I’m a tightwad.

    You’re always going to hear some horror story about a chinese frame that someone nearly died using. It’s not in the mainstream industry’s interest for people to be buying cheap stuff. My chinese carbon is doing just fine after 2 years on some really shit roads that have had my hands going numb after 30 minutes.

     

     

    #913281
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    risoto

    I don’t understand how one

    I don’t understand how one can even think about buying carbon bikes and parts from totally unknown sources in China. It takes expertise to produce carbon. There was an article on an american web site about copy  carbon bikes – among others a Trek or Specialized costing around 5.000 pounds retail that was sold for less than half that price. Two guys almost got killed and they were guys that had the money to buy the real deal. One broke his handlebar while just going downhill – he was very very lucky  to survive. The other example was a guy just riding along and the frame broke. He also barely survived.

    It appears that some employes had taken photos of the production proces and starting producing their own carbon frames and parts. Of course they didn’t have the knowledge nor the experise to produce anything safe.

    I would never compromise on a helmet either. You might just end up in a wheelchair instead of just walking away. The lure of a discount is strong and its your life, but use your brain while you have it.

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    CygnusX1

    I ordered some cheap chinese

    I ordered some cheap chinese stuff once.

    The delivery was fast.

    Gave me food poisoning though

     

    #913277
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    alansmurphy

    fenix wrote:

    fenix wrote:
    With a jersey what’s the worst that can happen ? With protective stuff like glasses or helmets – why would you take chances ? I’ve seen some fake Oakleys that look similar but will snap and scar you or worse in a crash.

     

    ABsolutely get your point.

     

    To be fair though the POCopy I have seem very close, full rimmed and interchangeable lens, plenty of flex. There’s a hell of a lot of brand name mark up on some of those £3 bits of plastic when you buy genuine!

     

    #913275
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    Canyon48

    ClubSmed wrote:

    ClubSmed wrote:

    I have had lots of possitive experiences with Aliexpress, there have been a few occasions where the item has got lost in the post but a refund has been easy and straight forward (though you do have to wait till after the estimated delivery window is passed which can be a long time).

    Jerseys and bib shorts that I have got from there have been of a pretty good quality and more than good enough for my short commute.

    Jackets have not had a good track records with zips so I have given up on those after a couple.

    Bike accessories (bells, bags,  are generally very good 

    I once bought a helmet off there as it was a great colour match to the bike that I keep at my parents. The helmet looked great but despite the number of vents in it my head was a hot sweaty mess after each ride. For this reason I would not buy one from there again, I think that they are probably just made for looks and weight but not tested for performance (cooling, aerodynamics, etc.).

    As far as delivery times are concerned, they seem to vary by quite a margin. Some things seem to appear after just over a week, some things take a couple of months.

    I hope this helps.

    Certainly helps, thanks 🙂

    I am curious about delivery times… A few weeks ago I bought two small items from eBay, one from China and the other from the UK. Somehow the item that came via China Airmail arrived in 5 days (one day before the item from the UK).

    #913273
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    ClubSmed

    I have had lots of possitive

    I have had lots of possitive experiences with Aliexpress, there have been a few occasions where the item has got lost in the post but a refund has been easy and straight forward (though you do have to wait till after the estimated delivery window is passed which can be a long time).

    Jerseys and bib shorts that I have got from there have been of a pretty good quality and more than good enough for my short commute.

    Jackets have not had a good track records with zips so I have given up on those after a couple.

    Bike accessories (bells, bags,  are generally very good 

    I once bought a helmet off there as it was a great colour match to the bike that I keep at my parents. The helmet looked great but despite the number of vents in it my head was a hot sweaty mess after each ride. For this reason I would not buy one from there again, I think that they are probably just made for looks and weight but not tested for performance (cooling, aerodynamics, etc.).

    As far as delivery times are concerned, they seem to vary by quite a margin. Some things seem to appear after just over a week, some things take a couple of months.

    I hope this helps.

    #913271
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    Canyon48
    Leviathan wrote:
    I bought a jersey off Aliexpress, and it arrive quite quickly, looked like it was supposed to, fit like it supposed to. It wasn’t a modern aero jersey with laser costing £165, but was cheap and just like any polyester jersey you would buy up to 10 years ago.

    But…

    A few weeks later I had fraud on my credit card, a couple of flights booked with a well know online travel site. It took several days before the items were deleted from my card and a few weeks waiting for declarations before I knew it had gone away. The data was not gleened from my computer. Maybe a coincidence, but I’m not trying again. 

    That’s more what I’m concerned about (rather the the quality of the products).

    Most peoples experiences are positive, so I was willing to give it a go.

    #913269
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    Boatsie

    My mate split his helmet into
    My mate split his helmet into 3 completely separate pieces and his Bolle (arms dealer or not) were sufficient of quality to prevent his eye from a puncture. It’s your head bro.

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