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Which Canyon? Decisions, decisions..!

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  • January 25, 2018 at 6:16 am #28071
    Cbw85

     

    Ok so I’m mulling over a few options while waiting to order a new canyon, which I think I’ve narrowed down to an ultimate.

     

    The leaders are:

     

    cf slx disk di2 8.0 at £4500

    Cf sl disk di2 8.0 at £3500

     

    Now the SLX is listed at 7.8kg & the SL at 7.3kg… I’ve checked the wheels and there is a 300g difference. Hmm.

     

    I really want aero wheels and the SL only has dtswiss with a low profile so would consider buying an aero set of wheels & selling the DTSwiss from the SL. Other option is to ditch disks and go for the SLX 8.0 Di2 at £3800

     

    I think I need to go try out di2 & disks at a LBS to make I want them..what are peoples thoughts? 

     

    I’m also looking at the aeroad (I originally wanted an aeroad but am leaning more to the classic look of the ultimate plus I live in a very hilly location..) 

     

    Last consideration is the factory outlet..has anyone got an experience of this?

     

    Thanks! 

     

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  • January 25, 2018 at 8:28 pm #910829
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    Cbw85

    Hahaha thanks for all of the

    Hahaha thanks for all of the advice chaps, it is very appreciated.

    I’m teetering between aeroad and ultimate again hahaha! 

    So the slx & sl frame is visually the same?

    I did think it a bit cheeky to ask the LBS for a ride but I don’t have any other way of trying di2/disks and seeing how they feel. Think it would really help sway my decision.

    They are all stunning bikes, I can’t wait for the weather to improve to get one ordered and relegate my current bike to the cellar until next winter! 

    January 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm #910827
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    Leviathan

    Could you just buy two

    Could you just buy two Ultimate CF SL 7.0 mechanicals and give one to me please? I am sure once you get a bit of mud on it you won’t tell the difference.

    January 25, 2018 at 7:01 pm #910825
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    Leeroy_Silk

    Part Robot makes some very

    Part Robot makes some very valid points. I suspect the main differences between SLX and SL equate to incremental gains for much bigger bucks. Personally I’d go SLX for no other reason than me being a good salesman’s dream 

    As for testing out di2 disc at the LBS, personally I feel this is poor form unless you’re fully upfront about what you’re planning. You might strike lucky and find your LBS is looking at the long game, ie you’ll bring the Canyon in for servicing etc. But I suspect most LBS’ will only let you test ride if they think you’ll buy from them. Or they charge you for the test. 

    Best of luck, whichever way you choose your set to have a cracking summer. Weather permitting. yes

    January 25, 2018 at 6:23 pm #910823
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    part_robot

    You have narrowed down

    You have narrowed down correctly; the carbon disk Ultimates are untouchable at their price IMO in terms of weight, design, aero and build quality. To pick apart your questions:

    Frameset: SL and SLX framesets differ by 100g and are identical in every other way. SLX is pointless. Even Canyon staff will tell you that.

    Wheels: aero wheels are heavier because they are bigger. No surprises here. Aero trumps a packet-of-butter’s-worth of weight any day. You’ll catch the wind with them though…

    Di2: hate it. Never again. Gear changes really are great and you certainly notice the ease during a long ride… but I want gears I can fix for a tenner when I’m away from the only bike shop in town that has a Di2 diagnostic kit, spares and a direct line to Shimano. Besides, Dura Ace 9100 mech is awesome. My Synapse had Di2; my new Ultimate does not. Very personal opinion though. Note: you CANNOT upgrade mech Ultimates to Di2 unless you want to cut your frame apart.

    Sacrific disk for rim: you having a laugh?

    Here’s what I’d do if you want to buy a ready-made bike: CF SL mechanical disk and spend the rest on a holiday, a Kickr or something else. If you must spend it on the bike, get some HED wheels or something. Or an Aeroroad. Or both with the money you save not going Di2 and SLX…

     

    January 25, 2018 at 2:33 pm #910821
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    peted76

    Or ditch the discs, and go

    Or ditch the discs, and go with the Ultimate CF SLX 9.0 @ 6.5kg’s ? Lovely bit of kit.

     

    January 25, 2018 at 1:04 pm #910819
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    spongebob

    if your a weight weenie think

    if your a weight weenie think long and hard about disc vs rim brake:

     

    AEROAD CF SLX 8.0 DI2 (7.2kg) 4,000

     

    ULTIMATE CF SLX 8.0 DI2 3.8k(7.1kg) 3,799

     

    ULTIMATE CF SLX 9.0 (6.5kg) 4,349

     

    Not saying disc is worse, just saying have a good think if it’s worth paying the premium for, or if you’d rather have better components/lighter weight.

     

    If I had your money it would be the Aeroad di2 😀

     

     

     

    January 25, 2018 at 12:27 pm #910817
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    Canyon48

    The SLX frame is lighter and

    The SLX frame is lighter and comes with the (heavy) but good looking aero Mavics.

    The SL is much cheaper and comes with lightweight DT Swiss wheels.

    Never ridden Di2, but having upgraded to Ultegra R8000, I don’t see the need to go for Di2 – I’d rather have the reliability of mechanical.

    Ultegra disc brakes are VERY good, I prefer them to my Ultegra rim brakes. You don’t need disc brakes but they offer better performance, particularly in the rain. Disc brakes do have the added of advantage of not wearing away carbon rims too in the long run.​

     

    January 25, 2018 at 10:24 am #910815
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    Boatsie

    I think you should go the SLX
    I think you should go the SLX because an L can easily be changed to an E!
    When I was young there was a super hero; Condor man.
    Then my mates and I discovered a hidden VHS collection containing almost identical title with a m replacing the r.
    Brilliant stuff.
    I ride a Reid Condor, safe cycling at its best.
    They read like 2 beautiful rides! That’s why bicycles are brilliant!

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