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January 4, 2018 at 7:06 am #27980
jchau
Anyone have any experience with the Superteam carbon wheelsets? I see them on Amazon with decent reviews but was wondering if anyone in the forum have more to say about it?
I have contacted the seller from the second link about Campy freehub option and they said they can do it but it will get shipped directly from China. Other options includes hubs: Powerway R13 ( paw version, not 3), Novatec 271 (cost less), Novatec 291-SL (cost more), any recommendation on hubs?
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jchau
So I have spent this year on
So I have spent this year on my SuperTeam wheels. Around 1000km on it with some mix road and gravel and some bumpy roads. The wheels held up with no problem. R13 hubs seems to work fine and like to roll as described by others, so on the downhill coasting, I would actually pull away from people.
The pads included are very sticky so it has a lot of bite…so much that the pads seems to melt or leave a blue residue on the rim surface. I have also tried another set of pads that are more cork like and it definitely stops worst than the stock brakes but leaves no blue residue.
Should be able to provide a might more feedback in the next few wheels when I get some time to check the truness of the wheels.
abedfo
I have had mine two years-
I have had mine two years- 5000km later no issues at all. Ive even ridden them on gravel sections of the fosse way. The sommerberg which is an off road section of the melton mowbray cycle classic had no issues. Commuted in winter on them day and night. Im not light either at 84kg!
matthewn5
I’ve got some H Plus Son
I’ve got some H Plus Son Archetype on Powerway R13s. Got them ‘hardly used’, was a bit skeptical about the hubs but they’ve been absolutely fine. They’re also very light. Small cartridge bearings could be a criticism, but they are still perfect after 7 months riding every day, rain or shine.
jchau
Finally my set has arrived.
Finally my set has arrived. Can’t wait to try them. Quality seems ok. A pain in the butt to try and install Vittoria Rubino Pro on them. Not sure if it is the tire being tight or these rims are hard to installed on, has to let the bike shop help me install it after pinching one of them. Was told to use the Tacx levers instead because they are thinner on the ends.
Going from 23C to 25C (with 23C tires), they seem so much wider that I need to adjust my brakes to fit them. But going with this tire and rim combo, I don’t get the tire bludge so it is technically more “aero” with their U Shaped Tubeless rims.
roburb
I got standard R13 as I
I got standard R13 as I figured that with 2 year warranty, they would get replaced if there is any issue, but I have read that upgrade ones are ceramic and very nice, so if you got those, you’ll like them a lot. As far as cross wind goes, my second ride involved quie a bit of it and I have to say that the rims performed very well. I felt a couple of jolts in stronger wind gusts, but nothing alarming enough that would cause my concern. Also, my package did not contain any spare spokes (reviews mentioned getting them), but I wrote a message to the seller asking whether they could ship a couple. I got a respnse within minutes from Joy letting me know they would be shipping spare spokes from China and I should have them in 8-12 business days which is fine with me. I have been very happy with this product so far and I remember that one of the reviews mentioned that the rim that someone had an issue with got replaced pretty quick as well, so it looks like the seller really cares which is a good sign.
jchau
Which hubs did you get?
Which hubs did you get? Standard R13?
Hopefully the brake surface will last long. I guess you haven’t tried yours in some decent cross wind?
roburb
No problem. My rims have
No problem. My rims have basalt brake surface as well and they do look pretty solid for $348 price, so I hope they will last a couple of years/12,000 miles. They come with 2-year (normal wear) warranty, so if I experience any brake surface issues, I hope the warranty will cover. If not, $348.00 is not a lot for a set of carbon rims, so I’ll just get another one.
jchau
roburb wrote:I just got these rims and looks-wise, they are excellent. I installed SwissStop Black Prince and Continental Ultra Sport II fold tires with 80mm valves. Took the bike on a 50 mile ride and my first impression is that the wheels feel much lighter and spin much easier than my stock Shimano RS10s. It almost is like day and night difference. The ride is also way more comfortable since the road bumps get absorbed much better now. Also, it is much easier to maintain speed on these rims and I rode long stretches at 22-23 mph without major effort. The bike feels lighter and more responsive, both on flats and climbs. My only real concern is how the braking surface will hold up over time. Based on my first ride it should be fine, but I am also very easy on the brakes and don’t over use them, especially on descents, so I am not sure how these rims will perform in some serious mountains where overheating can become an issue. However, for someone who rides mostly flat sections, these should be fine. Time will tell, but I hope to have good luck with them.Thanks for you feedback. I decided to pull the gun and made a purchase for a set custom for me so I am waiting for it to get built and shipped. Decided to order the 50mm, 25C Tubeless U Shaped rim, with basalt brake surface but will be running 23mm tires (since my bike can’t handle a 25mm). Hopefully the 23mm on 25mm rims will be more “aero” and the U Shape will help with the cross wind (my old Cervelo Soloist is getting pushed around quite a bit in cross wind). Got the basalt brake surface hopefully that will solve some of your brake concern.
roburb
I just purchased superteam
I just got these rims and looks-wise, they are excellent. I installed SwissStop Black Prince and Continental Ultra Sport II fold tires with 80mm valves. Took the bike on a 50 mile ride and my first impression is that the wheels feel much lighter and spin much easier than my stock Shimano RS10s. It almost is like day and night difference. The ride is also way more comfortable since the road bumps get absorbed much better now. Also, it is much easier to maintain speed on these rims and I rode long stretches at 22-23 mph without major effort. The bike feels lighter and more responsive, both on flats and climbs. My only real concern is how the braking surface will hold up over time. Based on my first ride it should be fine, but I am also very easy on the brakes and don’t over use them, especially on descents, so I am not sure how these rims will perform in some serious mountains where overheating can become an issue. However, for someone who rides mostly flat sections, these should be fine. Time will tell, but I hope to have good luck with them.
Canyon48
kil0ran wrote:
kil0ran wrote:I love how “Chinese” is so often used as a pejorative meaning cheap, low quality, dangerous. I’m old enough to remember the same thing being applied to anything Japanese and here we are running around on bikes made in Taiwan with groups and wheelsets designed in Japan costing over £10k. Same applies to people who wouldn’t look twice at a phone from Huwaei or one of the other Chinese manufacturers, despite the fact that all iPhones are built there.
Being a big lad I’m not sure I’d risk a set of carbon fibre rims even if they were from a name brand but if I was a 65kg whippet I wouldn’t hesitate to buy Chinese.
It’s quite amusing really. China is pretty much the leader in mass manufacture of carbon fibre – at least for the cycling industry. Conversely, there are a lot of cowboy carbon manufacturers in China.
I’m a proud owner of a Chinese carbon frame made by Quest Composites for Canyon Gmbh!
jchau
Seems like you are mostly
Seems like you are mostly only quote the first comment reply. But he was only referencing Novatec Hubs. But others doesn’t seem to have issues to Novatec hubs.
But if you look at the othe link I posted which was also SuperTeam wheels, there were other hub options including DT hubs also also different rim profile V, and U Shaped. The first replied has asked about V or U shaped profile of the wheels and I was able to get that from the seller and also posted the profile as a reference for people to comment on if it looks ok.
Where I live is relatively flat so I don’t need to worry about heating up on decends. And for the rain, I think think braking on carbon surface (doesn’t matter what brand) is a good idea anyway so I was going to go back to my alloy wheelset if I was to ride in the wet.
alansmurphy
Apologies, I saw people
Apologies, I saw people mentioning that you struggle to get all 3 of cheap, lightweight and quality; people mentioning the hubbs, sidecaps, bearings et al. That must all be the not advice you saw.
You didn’t seem interested in this but posted links to other products with no real clarity on why you’d think these were better, cheaper, more suitable…
jchau
Team EPO wrote:In the interests of transparency does Jchau work for the Company???I have had some Chinese aero wheels and they were good in the dry but a shocker in the wet even with decent carbon brake pads. Good value but so are Hunt wheels and you get UK after sales care
PS When I sold my chinese wheels I posted a short clip on YouTube for the buyer to see and now have over 2.4k views insane really
No I do not work for the company. I am seriously considering the product or other Chinese carbon wheels along brands like Farsports and Yoeleo.
I know carbon wheels in general would not be good for decends with hard braking due to thermal issues, and also the perform of carbon in the wet is not as good as alloy rims or disc.
And there hasn’t been a lot of “advice” to listen to, a lot more of people bashing Chinese product rather than constructive and from experience advice.
alansmurphy
You would suggest not,
You would suggest not, otherwise his marketing strategy is ‘give people the opportunity to slate our product’s. On the flip side, he/she hasn’t seemed to listen to any advice.As for the Chinese/Japanese thing, I think it’s more the reputation of online retail that is the issue. I buy team replica kit from China, some is probably from the same factory and excellent, some is piss poor. Considering the wheels are much higher priced items and failure could be life changing, for me a reputation, warranty, even someone to shout at is worth the price…
Team EPO
In the interests of
In the interests of transparency does Jchau work for the Company???
I have had some Chinese aero wheels and they were good in the dry but a shocker in the wet even with decent carbon brake pads. Good value but so are Hunt wheels and you get UK after sales care
PS When I sold my chinese wheels I posted a short clip on YouTube for the buyer to see and now have over 2.4k views insane really
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