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December 14, 2017 at 7:04 pm #27922
andrew@fortuneltd.co.uk
I see that a company based in the Yorkshire Dales is going to launch this product early next year. Do we think it might have potential for cyclists? Maybe with a stiff cleated sole? http://www.360textiles.com and http://www.360waterproofshoes.co.uk.
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SingleSpeed
I saw 100% vegan and then I
I saw 100% vegan and then I was out.
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hahaha I just saw the bellend tried to lie on an internet forum and got called out straight away
ClubSmed
Initial miscommunication
Initial miscommunication (deception) aside, I rather like the idea.
They look not dissimilar from my Nike free running shoes that I use when taking my bike out for functional journeys (shops, school run, meet up etc.). I like using them as the soft flexible sole allows it to flex around the raised clipless element in the pedals and remove any discomfort and the look good. The main disadvantage is that they are not waterproof at all, in fact they seem to attract and soak in water. This is not ideal when hitting the puddles on the way and has resulted in me wearing sealskinz socks with them quite often to mitigate it but is still not ideal.
Just my thoughts for what they’re worth.davel
andrew [at] fortuneltd.co.uk
andrew@fortuneltd.co.uk wrote:Further comments would be most welcome.OK.
This sort of shit plagues kickstarter. Disingenuous to begin with, and when called on it, minor back-pedalling to spin your initial dishonesty, without apologising or even acknowledging how it could come across.
How it does come across is dishonest. You need a personality transplant or to get someone completely different on your kickstarter campaign.
philhubbard
andrew [at] fortuneltd.co.uk
andrew@fortuneltd.co.uk wrote:Thanks for the responses.For winter road cycling in the Dales, I am currently using a pair of waterproof breathable socks, my summer cleated shoes and a really good overshoe from Sealskinz. This all works ok but is a bit of a time-consuming effort to assemble. I have looked at winter cycling boots but these seem heavy and uncomfortable.
My business – 360 Textiles – is a specialist in waterproof breathable membranes. We are developing a high quality leasure shoe which is knitted and contains a stretchy waterproof breathable PU membrane. I believe Goretex use PTFE which doesn’t stretch like PU and which is why currently there are no other knitted waterproof shoes around.
My aim was to see whether our proposed shoe could combine with a waterproof sock to replicate my existing cycling set-up but which would be much easier and quicker to change into. The shoes wash really easily due to the inherent waterproofing. They are also much comfier than hard leather or other waterproof shoes/boots (but this might mean they are not stiff enough for cycling).They are also incredably light.
We are conducting some wearer trials and I wonder whether any cyclists think, like me, that there is a potential market for a knitted waterproof shoe, perhaps with a cleated sole or perhaps with a Vibram sole containing a mountain bike style cleat.
As this is a cyclists forum, perhaps some fellow cyclists might be able to offer their thoughts?
I am not asking anyone here to buy anything – the shoe isn’t available for sale currently in any case.
If all our wearer trials prove successful, we are planning to launch a Kickstarter in the New Year.
Further comments would be most welcome.
If you are using PU uppers with a membrane can I ask how you are stiching the shoes? I only ask from a durability point of view as the tape will generally stretch and leak
Canyon48
Well, that went down like a
Well, that went down like a lead balloon.In all seriousness though, there’s no need to pretend that you just came across that company when you are from that company – it comes across as a bit suspicious.
Some feedback; for the asking price of somewhere below £99, I got myself some Shimano RW5 waterproof shoes. Ok, they aren’t waterproof when it’s really chucking it down, but then the water just runs down my legs into the shoes anyway – so it might be a fairly tough sell.
alansmurphy
If they have some of the
If they have some of the trainers ready on their website then I’d be happy to test these from an ‘uppers’ viewpoint. A quick ride on flats in wet weather would quickly tell a product innovation team whether it’s even worth thinking about soles, cleats etc.The other option with this wonder fabric would surely be overshoes…
CygnusX1
RoubaixCube wrote:
RoubaixCube wrote:This thread should be deleted. sales pitch was too disingenuous. Guy who happens to ‘stumble across’ a website is also the owner who is plugging his own business.
Why? He’s been outed, and come clean (although an apology for the disingenious first post would have been nice).
I don’t have a problem with small businesses asking for feedback from cyclists to help them innovate – its good for competition and we benefit from improved kit.
As long as they remember where they got their feedback from and throw some advertising revenue road.cc’s way when they launch, and maybe some give aways.
RoubaixCube
This thread should be deleted
This thread should be deleted. sales pitch was too disingenuous. Guy who happens to ‘stumble across’ a website is also the owner who is plugging his own business.
srchar
I can’t believe people still
I can’t believe people still make these silly mistakes in 2017. They are always found out in short order.
pjm60
andrew [at] fortuneltd.co.uk
andrew@fortuneltd.co.uk wrote:Thanks for the responses.Why didn’t you just say that in the first place? It comes across much more genuine than the “I see that a company…” nonsense.
Podc
I’d be interested. I cycle in
I’d be interested. I cycle in running shoes and my feet get cold and wet when it’s ummm cold and wet. Would prefer a grippy sole rather than cleats (flat pedals). Would also prefer a low heel to toe drop – less than 8mm.
hawkinspeter
A stretchy fabric wouldn’t be
A stretchy fabric wouldn’t be most cyclists choice for a shoe as you don’t want your foot to move around in the shoe. I’d imagine that it might be better suited for the more ‘casual’ cyclist as in someone who prefers comfort over power. Personally, I wouldn’t be interested in that unless the amount of movement can be limited.
andrew@fortuneltd.co.uk
Thanks for the responses.
Thanks for the responses.
For winter road cycling in the Dales, I am currently using a pair of waterproof breathable socks, my summer cleated shoes and a really good overshoe from Sealskinz. This all works ok but is a bit of a time-consuming effort to assemble. I have looked at winter cycling boots but these seem heavy and uncomfortable.
My business – 360 Textiles – is a specialist in waterproof breathable membranes. We are developing a high quality leasure shoe which is knitted and contains a stretchy waterproof breathable PU membrane. I believe Goretex use PTFE which doesn’t stretch like PU and which is why currently there are no other knitted waterproof shoes around.
My aim was to see whether our proposed shoe could combine with a waterproof sock to replicate my existing cycling set-up but which would be much easier and quicker to change into. The shoes wash really easily due to the inherent waterproofing. They are also much comfier than hard leather or other waterproof shoes/boots (but this might mean they are not stiff enough for cycling).They are also incredably light.
We are conducting some wearer trials and I wonder whether any cyclists think, like me, that there is a potential market for a knitted waterproof shoe, perhaps with a cleated sole or perhaps with a Vibram sole containing a mountain bike style cleat.
As this is a cyclists forum, perhaps some fellow cyclists might be able to offer their thoughts?
I am not asking anyone here to buy anything – the shoe isn’t available for sale currently in any case.
If all our wearer trials prove successful, we are planning to launch a Kickstarter in the New Year.
Further comments would be most welcome.
bendertherobot
Well, aside from the ham
Well, aside from the ham fisted approach to marketing, have a look at what Giro and Fizik have already one in this area.
alansmurphy
Sorry hp, wasn’t having a go
Sorry hp, wasn’t having a go at you as such, I do feel it’s a bit of a ham fisted approach to getting feedback.
Even some of the Chinese importers manage to whack a link to survey monkey up đŸ™‚
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