Have you ever worn a pollution mask when commuting?

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    Uni_student

    Hello! I’m a final year design student at university, for my final year project I’m investigating city air pollution and designing a protective solution for commuters. It would be great if you could spare a bit of time, your knowledge and experiences with your commute and opinions on current wearables and pollution masks available.

    If you wouldn’t mind filling out a very quick questionnaire it would help my degree massively: https://goo.gl/forms/1Alm2ZDTY5gnz1RD2

    Thank you and kind regards.

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    matthewn5

    There’s some interesting

    There’s some interesting research on this:

    Tainio, Marko et al (2016) Can air pollution negate the health benefits of cycling and walking? Preventive Medicine 87, 233–236

    Basically the authors conclude that the benefits of exercise outweight the disbenefits of air pollution by an enormous margin. Even on the most polluted day ever recorded in London you would have to cycle for 9 hours and 50 minutes on the most polluted day ever before the harm outweighed the benefit. Maximum benefits are at 2 hours, then harms start to climb but don’t cancel out the benefits for a long time.

    This research was covered in the FT here:

    https://ig.ft.com/sites/urban-cycling/ (may require free registration)

    Here’s the key diagrams:

    https://ig.ft.com/sites/urban-cycling/assets/pollution-london-large.png

     

    https://ig.ft.com/sites/urban-cycling/assets/pollution-world-large.png

     

    #906435
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    Welsh boy
    wellsprop wrote:
    Seems to me, the best solution is to replace all polluting vehicles with electric vehicles.

    And where does the energy source for these vehicles come from?  Fossil fuel burning power stations?  Nuclear power stations?  Wind farms which typically produce 24% of their theoretical maximum output?

    Until we go for something like pump storage hydro i think we should be encouraging more people to RIDE A BIKE!

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    Canyon48

    Seems to me, the best

    Seems to me, the best solution is to replace all polluting vehicles with electric vehicles.

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    cyclisto

    Respro is junk. Poor filter,
    Respro is junk. Poor filter, poor fitting, hot during summer and expensive on the long run.

    I sometimes use the reusable FFP3 mask of Moldex brand. The key point is that it has a wrapped filter that when unfolded it has a much larger area than most respirators making therefore easier to breathe under effort. Still it is hard to breath in and out. The seal is also very good but as mentioned before it is fails with facial hair. The strapping system contributes to good sealing but it is a PITA to wear the mask if you use eyeglasses and helmet. Also it doesn’t fold that good as a Respro.

    So should you design a mask your primary target would have to be easy breathing in and out. To do so, you must maximise the filtering area and add a good, easily activated valve, otherwise it will not really appeal to cyclists. Strapping system must ensure good seal and provide the ability to remove the mask without removing helmet and eyeglasses. And finally a good mask with super expensive filters will not sell well.

    Really nice topic though. Good luck!

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    TypeVertigo

    Been wondering about this

    Been wondering about this myself but I just cannot imagine how this is ever going to work for such a high aerobic activity as cycling.

    I live and ride in Manila, which has worse air quality than what you Brits get. One of my hobbies is painting scale models with spray lacquer paints, and I use a respirator with appropriate filter cartridges for that. Breathing through that is cumbersome enough to begin with while standing around a paint booth, what more while riding at speed and/or at oxygen debt.

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    fixit

    I live in the mountains, I

    I live in the mountains, I don’t need a mask, for now…

     

    #906425
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    hoffbrandm

    I am, but you shut the form..

    I am, but you shut the form…

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    DrJDog

    I used to wear one but just

    I used to wear one but just got revoltingly moist under it.

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    hawkinspeter

    janusz0 wrote:

    janusz0 wrote:
    20 years ago, I used to commute from Brick Lane to Soho, via the City of London, in a Respro. Leakage, the effort of breathing through filters and overheating made passive masks unpleasant for cycling. What could work is a deep, close fitting, face mask with a remote, pumped filter unit. This would provide a curtain of clean air to breathe from. There are industrial respirators that work on this principle. The pump would be powered by battery, dynamo or directly from the drivetrain and I’d hope that the air could also provide cooling inside the helmet.

    Passive masks make far more sense for people walking or driving than cycling. It seems the same with helmets – you’re far more likely to get a head injury whilst driving or walking than cycling (and the helmet would be more effective) yet they’re only marketed at cyclists.

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    janusz0

    20 years ago, I used to
    20 years ago, I used to commute from Brick Lane to Soho, via the City of London, in a Respro. Leakage, the effort of breathing through filters and overheating made passive masks unpleasant for cycling.
    What could work is a deep, close fitting, face mask with a remote, pumped filter unit. This would provide a curtain of clean air to breathe from. There are industrial respirators that work on this principle. The pump would be powered by battery, dynamo or directly from the drivetrain and I’d hope that the air could also provide cooling inside the helmet.

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    Al__S

    filter masks don’t work at

    filter masks don’t work at all if they’re not fitted crrectly. Even a small gap between skin and mask, anywhere around them, destroys the protection. In industrial situations employers have a legal duty to ensure those using masks are trained and tested for fitting- it’s not a particularly pleasent test, involving a large hood and a spray of bitrex.

    One thing that’s an immediate fail on the testing, no need to to proceed, is if you’ve got any facial hair- they absolutely only work if you’re clean shaven.

     

    Ones with a single strap, or a strap that only hooks around the ears, etc, are pretty much pointless, they won’t stay in place properly.

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    BrokenBootneck

    Buy a military grade

    Buy a military grade respirator and a box of filters. Exercising in them is horrible as the seal is so good. A bonus as it will feel like altitude training. 

    #906413
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    Canyon48
    Duncann wrote:
    alansmurphy wrote:
     Is a 16 stone bloke buying a carbon bike marketing bs or individual choice?

    The answer is c. – both of the above 🙂

    Yeah 😛

    It’s when said bloke starts bragging about how lightweight and aero his new wheels are that things need context!

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    Dnnnnnn
    alansmurphy wrote:
     Is a 16 stone bloke buying a carbon bike marketing bs or individual choice?

    The answer is c. – both of the above 🙂

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    alansmurphy

    Hmmm, not everything is

    Hmmm, not everything is marketing BS and it really depends on the way you conduct the study (compared to say Team Sky in a wind tunnel).

     

    You could argur that theres little size differential between the mechanisms but a rotor may be an issue in cross winds, the rim brake is in front of the head tube (which the air would hit anyway), the different wheels the discs allow may more than account for resistance and on and on and on. Joe Public may not need or feel these differences particularly, that’s not to say there aren’t differences. Is a 16 stone bloke buying a carbon bike marketing bs or individual choice?

     

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