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  • October 11, 2017 at 3:39 pm #27732
    il sole

    Hi all,

    I currently have a traditional turbo trainer, but am just about to move house where I will be the proud owner of a double garage! As part of the deal with Mrs Il Sole, the house is hers, the garage mine smiley

    I intend setting up a proper pain cave and buying a smart trainer to ‘enjoy’ some better online platforms rather than just watching the odd GCN video and trying to follow on my old turbo. So, my question is this: Should I use my best bike attached to a direct drive unit, or buy an old bike off ebay which I could abuse?? My LBS recommended not using my Wilier on the trainer, but is he, (or am i) being too precious and that doing a few hours a week on it strapped up to a smart trainer isn’t going to cause any issues at all??

    Of course, the outlay for all this is going to be around £1000, so I want to do it right!!

    cheers!

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  • October 14, 2017 at 6:39 pm #904317
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    lostshrimp

    He’s just done his annual

    He’s just done his annual round up.

    https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/10/annual-trainer-recommendations.html

    From my experience no issues hooking my Ribble R872 to the turbo all winter for the last couple of years. I use an old bent wheel with a trainer tyre on it.  Probably wouldn’t recomended my Tacx Vortex Smart – thought it was great until I got an actual power meter – the output seems to change markedly during workouts and Trainerroad’s power match feature seems to struggle to cope.

    October 14, 2017 at 5:10 pm #904315
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    CXR94Di2

    Get a really big fan to help
    Get a really big fan to help you keep cool and sweat slightly less I invested in a 36″ floor mounted fan, to cool me all over

    October 14, 2017 at 8:30 am #904313
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    mtbtomo

    I think it depends on how
    I think it depends on how much you sweat more than the strain on where the bike is clamped in the stays. Sweat finds its way into headset bearings even if you use towels, turbo trainer sweat guards…. The bike I’ve had on the turbo permanently for about 3 years now….after less than a year the paint on both frame and forks was flaking, the lacquer on the brake levers is flaking, bottle cage bosses are rusting, chainring bolts rusted.

    I use my best bike now and again for the odd session but if you are going to put yours on it a lot you’d want to be absolutely fastidious to make sure it wasn’t a corroded wreck come the end of winter….

    October 13, 2017 at 12:08 pm #904311
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    fenix

    Check out dc Rainmaker and

    Check out dc Rainmaker and his site – very tecchy – knows all there is to know about turbos.

    I’d happily leave the best bike on the turbo – that’s what I do with my TT bike. 

    October 13, 2017 at 12:00 pm #904309
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    alansmurphy

    If that’s from athlete shop

    If that’s from athlete shop have a look down the board at another smart trainer post (or was it a thread on ‘best indoor trainers’ from an article.

     

    Anyway, I believe athlete shop isn’t a UK site, the item says it’s not in stock for a month and they often take money and then it takes forever to get the goods… 

    October 13, 2017 at 8:57 am #904307
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    il sole

    @Johnnyvee and @Maviczap –

    @Johnnyvee and @Maviczap – cheers guys.

    Just downloaded the warranty for the frame and no mention of using trainers, so i think i’ll get one, stick on the wilier and see how it goes!

    Am thinking of buying an elite direto, simply because the old turbo i have is an elite and i’ve been very happy with it. Also found a direto for sale for £590…

    cheers everyone!

    October 12, 2017 at 6:50 pm #904305
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    maviczap

    Can’t see why putting your

    Can’t see why putting your best bike on the turbo is going to do anything to it.

    I bought a Tacx Smart Flow last year, which was a big improvement from the Tacx Flow even though this used the great VR video rides. But a smart trainer is much more fun. I’ve tried Zwift and currently using Bkool.

    I’m hoping to upgrade to. Tacx Flux or Elite Director direct drive soon, as smart trainers are the future

    October 12, 2017 at 6:35 pm #904303
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    Johnnyvee

    I dropped an email to Jamis
    I dropped an email to Jamis customer services and they said Mt bike would be fine on a trainer. OK it’s one of them new fangled gravel things (renegade expert) but they said it was fine.
    Drop em a line see what they say.
    My mate puts his Cervello on a tacx Neo.. No problem

    October 12, 2017 at 12:59 pm #904301
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    CXR94Di2

    il sole wrote:

    il sole wrote:

    Thanks guys.

    FWIW I’m no sprinter – 70Kg… riding a Wilier cento10AIR… I already have a winter bike – a boardman cxr 9.8  ( I guess ‘CXR94DI2’ also has one!!) with mudguards etc, so the Wilier could stay attached for the whole winter… I guess i’m just precious over her!

     

    My Boardman has been fitted for over 2 years to my Wahoo Kickr, no problems with it.

    October 12, 2017 at 12:52 pm #904299
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    il sole

    Thanks guys.

    Thanks guys.

    FWIW I’m no sprinter – 70Kg… riding a Wilier cento10AIR… I already have a winter bike – a boardman cxr 9.8  ( I guess ‘CXR94DI2’ also has one!!) with mudguards etc, so the Wilier could stay attached for the whole winter… I guess i’m just precious over her!

     

    October 12, 2017 at 12:44 pm #904297
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    il sole
    alansmurphy wrote:
    I’m at work, should I really put “Big Ring VR” into Google?

    October 12, 2017 at 12:16 pm #904295
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    alansmurphy

    I’m at work, should I really

    I’m at work, should I really put “Big Ring VR” into Google?

     

    Yorkshire, you need better locks, or a dog!

     

     

    October 12, 2017 at 10:52 am #904293
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    fukawitribe

    FWIW i’ve been using my 2012

    FWIW i’ve been using my 2012 Wilier Izoard XP on the trainer for the last 3 years with regular use – KKRM at first, Tacx Genius last 20 months or so – no worries here, but i’m no monster sprinter either.

    I’d also definitely second what CXR94Di2 said.

    October 12, 2017 at 10:27 am #904291
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    Anonymous

    I had that house-yours,

    I had that house-yours, garage-mine deal. What happens is the house is continuously rejigged and all the mess gets dumped in the garage, so in reality I have a clear garage about 1/4 of the time.

    I have secured a Zwifting corner now the treadmill is gone and I’m not moving!

    October 12, 2017 at 9:32 am #904289
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    Nixster

    Unless you’re a recently

    Unless you’re a recently retired full back, I find it hard to believe that a few hours a week will do any damage to your best bike.  That’s going to be my approach anyway once the weather / daylight really goes, best bike on the trainer and second best bike with ‘guards for outdoor duties.

    In theory I can see how the loading on the stays will be different to the loading from a wheel (no ‘give’ from the trainer), so maybe resist the urge to throw the bike around when things get steep on Zwift.  But in practice there should be a good margin of safety in all that ‘laterally stiff’ bottom bracket carbon.

    I can however see the convenience of having a bike permanently fixed to the trainer.  If you’re after the cheaper Tacx version (Flux?) then you’ll have  plenty of change from your £1000 to go hunting on ebay.

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