- This topic has 35 replies, 21 voices, and was last updated 8 years, 5 months ago by
staffo.
-
CreatorTopic
-
October 10, 2017 at 9:57 am #27728
hawkinspeter
I’m currently running a pair of Schwalbe Pro-Ones and find them a bit slippery on wet roads (and they’re not new, so I have run them in).
With winter around the corner, I’m looking to get some 28mm tubeless tyres that are more confidence inspiring. Any recommendations?
-
CreatorTopic
-
AuthorReplies
-
rutland
I’ve done about 1,000km on
I’ve done about 1,000km on 25mm Pro One tyres tubeless on Pacenti SL23 v2 rims (20.2mm internal width) at 70 psi. In the dry they have been great, but on wet and greasy country lanes I have had the back step out on me a few of times and I’ve had to catch the front when cornering on a couple of occasions lately. I’m going to try dropping them to 65psi to see if that improves things. If not, I’ll be trying IRC Formula Pro or going back to tubes and Open Pave.
paulrattew
I’ve got 28mm Pro-ones on my
I’ve got 28mm Pro-ones on my ‘road bike’ at the moment. Apart from the initial lack of grip due to whatever preservative gets sprayed on the tyres at the factory I’ve never had any grip problems with them. It probably took fifty or sixty miles to bed them in but after that they have been just as good as almost all the other tyres I’ve tried, even in the wet. Prior to the 28mm tyres I had the 25mm version, which were also fine grip wise. Every sety of tubeless road tyres I’ve tried seem to require a little bit more bedding in than non-tubeless tyres. The only tyres I’ve tried that were super grippy straight out of the box were conti GP 4000Sii which are simply not suitable as a winter tyre
On my ‘gravel’ bike I use a mix of tyres depending on the riding I’m exptecting to do. Two sets of schwalbes – X-ones for CX style riding, 35mm G-ones for more mixed riding, and a set of hutchinson sector 28mm tyres for road only riding (and wintery sportives). I’m lucky enough to have a couple of sets of wheels for that bike so I can keep them set up with different tyres. When the hutchinson sectors finally die I will probably replace them with either the 32mm model or with schwalbe G-one speeds as there isn’t enough of a different in the speed of those tyres compared to the 28s to put me off of them.
Bowks
If you’re looking for the
If you’re looking for the Hutchy Sector 28’s, I got a pair for £75 from Acycles a few months back.
CXR94Di2
Never subscribed to it, get
Never subscribed to it, get one that can do most, if not all.
hawkinspeter
@sergius – I’m comparing the
@sergius – I’m comparing the Pro-Ones with every tyre I’ve used though not GP4000s. Mainly Vittoria, Hutchinson, Maxxis etc. The problem is when the road is wet/damp and the pressure may be a factor too as this weekend I pumped them up to 90psi and that definitely makes them very slippy. Yesterday morning, I had the rear wheel skid from light-ish braking and then on my way home, I had the rear wheel slip a tiny bit whilst accelerating from traffic lights though it was a shiny bit of tarmac.
I’ve used Pro-Ones on my previous bike and noticed the same, so I’m pretty sure it’s the tyres and not just me being heavy-handed.
@CRX94Di2 – how does that fit into the n+1 ethos?
Trade frame for so can take
Trade frame for so can take 40mm tyres. You then only need one bike two pairs of wheels to do pretty much all terrain riding. Cough Tripster V2 🙂sergius
I’m running Schwalbe Pro Ones
I’m running Schwalbe Pro Ones on my best bike, with the time of year I’ve been taking out the winter bike/best bike depending on the weather. The 25mm Pro Ones on my best bike don’t seem to grip noticeably differently from the Conti GP4000SII tyres I’ve been using for the last few years on all my bikes (touch wood slightly better with punctures though), and am running the 28mm version of the Contis on my winter bike.
I’m in a bit of a funny situation in that I refuse to adopt tubeless right now, but Hunt issued some guidelines that Conti tyres were no longer supported and sent me some replacement Pro Ones – which other than the fitting dramas and the one puncture I’ve had this year (unseating tubeless tyres appears to be a whole different ball game to the Conti’s I’m used too), have been fautless.
I guess my only point is that from my frame of reference; with two high end “race” tyres, they seem to offer a similar level of grip – I’ve done 1000’s of km on both by now. I’m never going to corner at speed across a mini-roundabout on a painted surface in the wet – you need four wheels for that.
I can’t really think of any situations where some additional tyre grip would make me go faster, I’ve certainly never experienced any straight line slip unless the road is wet and covered in crap, and the gradient is 10%+.
What are you comparing the Pro Ones too?
Jimthebikeguy.com
G-one speed (s-ones in old
G-one speed (s-ones in old money), the liteskin tl easy version. Amazing.hawkinspeter
Miller wrote:Those cycleclinic 28mm tyres are not Pro Ones, they are first generation Ones although still tubeless-easy. I know cos I have a pair on a bike I put together recently. I was taken aback at their weight, 390g per, on the other hand I have come to love them. At 60psi they roll really, really well. They’re ok in the wet in my opinion, depending on what you expect a tyre to be able to cope with.Thanks. I don’t know what it is with the Schwalbe Pro Ones as they’re absolutely lovely in the dry, but it just needs a little bit of moisture on the road and they start slipping when accelerating or braking. I’ve not had any other tyre be so fickle in the wet, but like you say, they do roll very nicely.
Miller
Those cycleclinic 28mm tyres
Those cycleclinic 28mm tyres are not Pro Ones, they are first generation Ones although still tubeless-easy. I know cos I have a pair on a bike I put together recently. I was taken aback at their weight, 390g per, on the other hand I have come to love them. At 60psi they roll really, really well. They’re ok in the wet in my opinion, depending on what you expect a tyre to be able to cope with.
hawkinspeter
@iso2000 – I can’t see any
@iso2000 – I can’t see any size other than 25mm. Interestingly, thecycleclinic website has some Schwalbe Pro-Ones in 28mm width which almost tempted me until I remembered how slippery they can be in the wet (I’ve never had tyres that slippery before).
hawkinspeter
@MoutonDeMontagne – I don’t
@MoutonDeMontagne – I don’t have enough faith in ghetto tubeless. I’d rather just put in inner tubes than always have a nagging doubt at the back of my mind.
iso2000
MoutonDeMontagne
I have much the same quandry
I have much the same quandry as I love my G-ones on my cx bike, but they won’t fit on the road bile (max 25mm). Not tubeless, but I’ve recently switched to Vitorria Pave’s from GP4000s and been very impressed.
On the subject of GP4000s, I’ve manage to get them to seal on a non tubeless rim (askium but with schwalbe tape) but not dared ride them. If you’re on tubeless rims, might be worth a round the block experiment on the off chance you’ve an old one lying around.
johnvrcc
I have a pair of Mavic’s
I have a pair of Mavic’s Yskion Allroads 30mm which I like. Pros: very grippy, pretty fast on tarmac, can be had for under £30. Cons: wear quickly and cut/puncture fairly easily (have always sealed for me, but then can’t be inflated past 60psi without bursting)
-
AuthorReplies
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.