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September 21, 2017 at 5:57 am #27657
Sultan_Penang
Currently I am plannign a number of bike packing trips to Sumatra and North Vietnam with my Giant TCR advanced. I will be riding through rather steep mountainous terrain, not always very good roads and the possibility of getting caught in the rain while descending is always there. My dilemma is wether the ultegra 6800 rim brakes would do the job or should I invest and go for disk brakes. Does anyone have experience in similar terrain with rim brakes? I would appreciate any advice regarding this matter.
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Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
You’re so full of shit, so you’re saying I’m lying and that my friends are lying and either didn’t do the raid alpine or you’re saying they went through loads of brake pads and I didn’t notice once whilst packing their bikes, wheeling them into various conference rooms, out-houses and whilst helping to make sure they were up to spec each day. I’d even suggested in our pre-tour discussions to bring spare pads in case they were needed.
But yeah, you must have being there too so that you can assure us of your fantasy that it “never happened”
The pic below on the 12th August also never happened.
Do one twat!
In all fairness, you’re so obsessed with your own blinkered & narrow minded view of the world that it’s highly likely that you missed the worn out brake blocks. You fucking fifth rate troll.
Hahaha, it was YOU who called me out as a liar you fucking slimey pile of shit, and then I slammed the door shut on you.
But c’mon big man, if you want to get it on sowe can discuss the niceites of you calling me a liar, i’ll fucking crush you like a grape loud mothed twat!
I’m on the CUK forum, you can message me there and let’s get this sorted, any time, any place. But you won’t because you’re loud mothed cowardly cunt troll who accuses people of lying without a scrap of evidence then gets all keyboard warrior when outed as talking shite.
I’ll be waiting for you twat!
fenix
Rapha Nadal wrote:
Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
You’re so full of shit, so you’re saying I’m lying and that my friends are lying and either didn’t do the raid alpine or you’re saying they went through loads of brake pads and I didn’t notice once whilst packing their bikes, wheeling them into various conference rooms, out-houses and whilst helping to make sure they were up to spec each day. I’d even suggested in our pre-tour discussions to bring spare pads in case they were needed.
But yeah, you must have being there too so that you can assure us of your fantasy that it “never happened”
The pic below on the 12th August also never happened.
Do one twat!
In all fairness, you’re so obsessed with your own blinkered & narrow minded view of the world that it’s highly likely that you missed the worn out brake blocks. You fucking fifth rate troll.
Someone’s not been out for a ride….
To me it sound perfectly feasible that people have got through the Alps without needing to change their blocks. I’ve spent long weekends over there and never used up all my blocks or even had to replace them shortly after. You do know different types of block wear differently ? And laden down bikes would be harsher than ligheer road bikes ? And braking techniques help too.
fenix
Rapha Nadal wrote:
Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
You’re so full of shit, so you’re saying I’m lying and that my friends are lying and either didn’t do the raid alpine or you’re saying they went through loads of brake pads and I didn’t notice once whilst packing their bikes, wheeling them into various conference rooms, out-houses and whilst helping to make sure they were up to spec each day. I’d even suggested in our pre-tour discussions to bring spare pads in case they were needed.
But yeah, you must have being there too so that you can assure us of your fantasy that it “never happened”
The pic below on the 12th August also never happened.
Do one twat!
In all fairness, you’re so obsessed with your own blinkered & narrow minded view of the world that it’s highly likely that you missed the worn out brake blocks. You fucking fifth rate troll.
Someone’s not been out for a ride….
To me it sound perfectly feasible that people have got through the Alps without needing to change their blocks. I’ve spent long weekends over there and never used up all my blocks or even had to replace them shortly after. You do know different types of block wear differently ? And laden down bikes would be harsher than ligheer road bikes ? And braking techniques help too.
Rapha Nadal
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
You’re so full of shit, so you’re saying I’m lying and that my friends are lying and either didn’t do the raid alpine or you’re saying they went through loads of brake pads and I didn’t notice once whilst packing their bikes, wheeling them into various conference rooms, out-houses and whilst helping to make sure they were up to spec each day. I’d even suggested in our pre-tour discussions to bring spare pads in case they were needed.
But yeah, you must have being there too so that you can assure us of your fantasy that it “never happened”
The pic below on the 12th August also never happened.
Do one twat!
In all fairness, you’re so obsessed with your own blinkered & narrow minded view of the world that it’s highly likely that you missed the worn out brake blocks. You fucking fifth rate troll.
fenix
Sultan_Penang wrote:
Sultan_Penang wrote:Miller wrote:Do you have a good handle on the quality of roads you’ll be riding on? I wonder if a full-on race bike is the best choice of machine. I may be displaying my ignorance here but I wouldn’t be expecting continuous asphalt in those regions. I’d be looking at a gravel bike, myself.I wouldn’t worry about disk brake maintenance, once set up they’re very reliable.
The places where I want to go are connected with asphalt. My experience with Indonesia is that roads can be often new and smooth, but also old and bumpy with potholes. I will put on 28mm tires. A gravel bike might be a better option, but I like fast, multi-day, minimalist road bike trips. Also, I am not sure if I want to buy a second bike, and I don’t want to sell my TCR.
So why are you asking about disc brakes ?
drosco
Helmets!???
Helmets!???Anonymous
Rapha Nadal wrote:BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
You’re so full of shit, so you’re saying I’m lying and that my friends are lying and either didn’t do the raid alpine or you’re saying they went through loads of brake pads and I didn’t notice once whilst packing their bikes, wheeling them into various conference rooms, out-houses and whilst helping to make sure they were up to spec each day. I’d even suggested in our pre-tour discussions to bring spare pads in case they were needed.
But yeah, you must have being there too so that you can assure us of your fantasy that it “never happened”
The pic below on the 12th August also never happened.
Do one twat!
macrophotofly
One important note on
One important note on changing rim brake pads – new ones always feel amazingly good compared to the old glazed-over ones. Before drawing any conclusions on brand I suggest either buying a set of each new to try Or taking some sandpaper to your old ones, getting them roughed up, then set them up correctly on your rim and bed in a little – then see how much difference there is to the new Swiss Stop ones.
My personal experience is that Swiss Stop pads are relatively better in damp weather providing a little more initial bite (thus my choice in the UK) but on long descents nothing beats the Shimano Ult/D-A pads which is why I always went back to them in Japan where the descents are much longer
TypeVertigo
28 mm tires should be fine
28 mm tires should be fine for a bit of gravel. You will want to change your cornering technique a little on that surface – better to take the turn as upright as you can, and lean the bike over as little as possible.
Take care and enjoy your trip.
Sultan_Penang
Miller wrote:Be sure to take plenty of puncture repair stuff and you’ll be fine and have a great time. Maybe pop a note back here afterwards to tell everyone how you got on.Thanks! I just bought a few inner tubes and new CO2 cannisters. Definitely, once back from the ride I will write a note here.
Miller
Be sure to take plenty of
Be sure to take plenty of puncture repair stuff and you’ll be fine and have a great time. Maybe pop a note back here afterwards to tell everyone how you got on.
Sultan_Penang
Folks, thanks very much for
Folks, thanks very much for the suggestions and advices. I could not find the Kool Stop brake pads in Singapore, but will get the Swiss Stop, which is available. I’ll head to Sumatra in two weeks. Let’s see how the pads and the TCR function.
Rapha Nadal
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
Let’s file this under the “never happened” stories section.
cyclisto
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@behindbikesheds
Well you did more than twice my elevation gains on your trip and no worn pads under continuous rain? I am surprised! On that particular descent I didn’t finish my brake pads but I am quite sure I consumed 1-2 mm of brake pad, as my rear nearly ended making me using only the front for the rest of the trip to avoid fully ending the rear and therefore damaging the rim.Anonymous
cyclisto wrote:
cyclisto wrote:Once during touring, I descended a 1000m of steep downhill under heavy rain with rim brakes. When I reached the flats my brifters were stopping at my drop bars as there was excessive brake pad wear. I would definitely feel safer with disks but should you stick to rim brakes, don’t forget to take enough replacement brake pads!In August I serviced/supported my friends who did the RAID Alpine, this involved climbing over 58,000ft in 6 days and even more descending, a lot of it high speed with loads of chicanes, off the col de L’iseran it was snowing on the way up and over the top, sleeted then rain for the rest of the way. 3000ft down, they all had rim brakes and only one of them fubar’d their brakes (on another day) but wasn’t due to burning all the way through them.
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