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  • May 10, 2017 at 4:42 pm #892815
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    oldstrath

    peted76 wrote:

    peted76 wrote:

    As terrible as the whole thing is I think I’m a little relieved to know that this is at the least a clear message to drivers, 3 years in prison isn’t to be sniffed at, I just wish they’d change the law so that offenders could have their right to drive taken from them permanently.

    Does her 4.5year ban include the three years she’s been sentenced to (not that she’ll do three years I’m sure).

    I suppose three years is more than I expected, but it seems rather trivial for such a good attempt at killing a man, and seems a pretty weak message. I do wonder whether if I took similar revenge with a d-lock on a numpty driver I’d get a similarly light punishment.

    May 10, 2017 at 4:36 pm #892811
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    Grahamd

    I have never given a gift to

    I have never given a gift to a judge, but I would buy this one lunch and as much alcohol as he could consume. 

    May 10, 2017 at 4:31 pm #892809
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    peted76

    As terrible as the whole

    As terrible as the whole thing is I think I’m a little relieved to know that this is at the least a clear message to drivers, 3 years in prison isn’t to be sniffed at, I just wish they’d change the law so that offenders could have their right to drive taken from them permanently.

    Does her 4.5year ban include the three years she’s been sentenced to (not that she’ll do three years I’m sure).

    May 10, 2017 at 4:28 pm #892807
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    Darkhairedlord

    3 years

    3 years

    May 10, 2017 at 4:26 pm #892805
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    kil0ran

    Bloody hell. 

    Bloody hell. 

    CMPG, you’ve got competition Judge Gregory Perrins in the hero stakes.

    People have killed and had lighter sentences.

    May 10, 2017 at 4:00 pm #892803
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    multimodal

    The Evening Standard quotes

    The Evening Standard quotes the judge as saying, “Those who are unable to control their temper when driving and feel that cyclists are somehow fair game must understand the courts will deal with them seriously”

    I find that quite reassuring. 

    May 10, 2017 at 3:44 pm #892801
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    Ush

    Yorkshire wallet wrote:

    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    Here in lies the main problem of policing the roads on bike – people can well and truly f@ck you up in their cars.

    EDIT: maybe it wasn’t you mentioning “policing the roads” on the other current thread, but it’s the same problem.  

    I wish you’d stop with this “policing the roads” meme/idea. It’s as annoying as the “not a real cyclist” or “give us all a bad name”.

    Someone riding in a position that they judge to be safest or communicating with someone else  is not “policing the roads” they’re doing what they are comfortable with and sharing a public space.  The idea that you would not be able to ride in a legal position or suggest to another road user that they need to pay attention is unacceptable.

    You can “unpolice the roads” all you want (what do you do? ride on the sidewalk and congratulate yourself on being reasonable?) you’ll still run the risk of being well and truly effed up.  And if you go around spreading the idea the someone riding in primary is being some sort of entitled interfering git then you may also have stoked some moron’s road rage.

     

    Give it a rest. Please.

    May 10, 2017 at 3:35 pm #892799
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    pruaga

    Is it too late to guess

    Is it too late to guess jailed for three years, banned from driving for four and a half and 6 points on license?

    May 10, 2017 at 1:39 pm #892797
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    oldstrath

    Question for the lawyers –

    Question for the lawyers – why ‘dangrous driving’ rather than assault, and would the possible  penalties be different if she’d inflicted the damage with a steel bar instead of a car?

    May 10, 2017 at 1:37 pm #892795
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    Anonymous

    Should have the child taken

    Should have the child taken away from her, clearly not fit to be a parent.

    anything other than a custodial sentence is a massive miscarriage of justice (yet again).

     

    May 10, 2017 at 1:33 pm #892793
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    dottigirl

    ‘Sole carer for her mother’ –

    ‘Sole carer for her mother’ – yeah, sure. How are you going to care for your mother with a baby too?

     

    May 10, 2017 at 1:26 pm #892791
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    oldstrath

    I imagine lots of sob crap

    I imagine lots of sob crap about the baby, that she’ll neglect anyway, and hardship, which she would have brought on herself. So I imagine about 6 months, probably suspended, and a few points on the licence, which she doesn’t care about anyway.

    In an ideal world lock the pair of them away (him for encouraging her to commit assault), remove them from any possibility of having a driving licence ever again, crush the car. But hey, that might be effective, so we won’t do it.

    May 10, 2017 at 1:17 pm #892789
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    Jimmy Ray Will

    My thoughts are the same as

    My thoughts are the same as above. Plenty of mitigating factors that mean she’ll get a suspended sentence. 

    Which I’d say was fair enough if she’d not lied under oath about her fella grabbing the steering wheel. That deliberate and calculated attempt to pervert the course of justice would be enough for me to  remove any chance of suspension. 

    I am not confident the judge will see it the same way however. 

     

     

    May 10, 2017 at 11:51 am #892787
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    Anonymous

    Here in lies the main problem
    Here in lies the main problem of policing the roads on bike – people can well and truly f@ck you up in their cars.

    In America she’d have probably shot him but in the UK a car is just as good for a revenge attack. Hopefully she gets a decent sentence for what looks like a very intentional act. She screams entitlement as it is.

    May 10, 2017 at 11:40 am #892785
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    Awavey

    Grumpy17 wrote:

    Grumpy17 wrote:

    Mungecrundle wrote:
    My guess: 6 month sentence suspended for 12 months, sub £500 fine and 2 year driving ban.

     

    Pretty unlikely they will suspend if they have remanded her into custody after the hearing yesterday.

     

    This previous case might point towards a likely sentence. In the light of this I will revise my earlier estimate downwards. To about 12 months.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17066798

    its difficult to directly compare because lthough the newspaper reports dont really highlight it, this case was also a hit & run, failed to report the accident etc etc and its that latter part which crown courts generally do apply custodial sentences on of at least 6months. whether they will suspend it in mitigation as a single parent/carer of the child who knows, wait and see.

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