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  • November 16, 2016 at 8:00 am #26490
    shay cycles

    I know I’m not the only one who is bothered by the language in some of the comments on Road.cc – is there not something that can be done about it?

    Maybe because of parental influence I rarely swear and when I do it is in the heat of the moment, for example when a driver causes me serious risk I might use one or two (who’s counting) expletives; but in a considered response to anything however unjust, vile or repugnant there are plenty of words in our language which are fit to be seen by all. 

    A comment typed on a computer is by definition considered (otherwise the fingers wouldn’t be able to find the keys etc) and although we do, and should, discuss issues that are terribly emotive and sometimes controversial we should remember that this is a public and non-age-restricted site.

    This morning I’ve already read the “C” word used more than once as well as the “F” word.

    Some might think I’m being a bit “prim and proper” and I might well be; but were my child or grandchild read the page I’d be unhappy.

    So please:

    (a) lets think about what we are typing and

    (b) could the site admins moderate the language?

    (c) lets see more immaginitive use of language

     

    PS – I consider that the drivers causing the death by driving stupidly last night in Leeds deserve much, much more than the law will give them. I consider them to be reckless, stupid, irresponsible idiots who should be locked up for a long time and never be allowed to drive a vehicle again (and I mean never). They repulse any right thinking person and we rightly abhor not only their behaviour but the nature of society that lets this kind of thing become relatively common and relatively acceptable. BUT I won’t swear on here about them (ask me elsewhere though and I might!)

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  • November 16, 2016 at 7:48 pm #881919
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    Lungsofa74yearold

    Oh the delicious irony – a
    Oh the delicious irony – a post complaining about the levels of swearing on here unleashes a deluge of profanity

    November 16, 2016 at 6:17 pm #881917
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    mike the bike

     

     

    Swearing is optional.  However, use of the word “uptick” shall now result in a plague of locusts streaming from your computer’s speakers and feasting on your genitals.

    November 16, 2016 at 6:00 pm #881915
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    The _Kaner

    Is this not the same as

    Is this not the same as advocating (or not) the use of helmets?

    You don’t need to (s)wear one if you don’t want to (at least for the time being).

    But you don’t actually have the right to tell others not to (s)wear (one) either, just because you don’t or deem it inappropriate – insert anecdotal ‘evidence’… lower education standards/academic standing etc., blah de blah…

    I am a Scotsman living in rural Ireland for the last 17 years, who rarely swears in front of my parents – and I’m nearly 50 – and my language is tame in comparison to the locals.

    The use of the ‘c’ word is as interchangeable as the word ‘yoke’ here in Ireland. i.e. it is used for almost everything, in many situations and is probably the most widely used swear word in daily use…and is also a term of endearment – (I kid you not)

    It is a matter of daily life/language (yes even used by children as young as 5 or 6..)

    I care not whether it (or any other expletive)  is deemed as appropriate language within this site or otherwise. 

    If you want to use bad language, go ahead. Or Don’t!

    It won’t put me off my breakfast

    November 16, 2016 at 4:42 pm #881913
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    fenix

    TBH if kids are on here then

    TBH if kids are on here then they’re probably cyclists and have heard worse on the street from angry people.

     

    Also school is brilliant for swearing.  

     

    I’ve not really noticed any excessive swearing here but I’m not 8.

    November 16, 2016 at 4:33 pm #881911
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    mrtrilby
    newtonk wrote:
    Great thread.

    Regarding the kids, while I don’t go effin and jeffin too much in front of them, I think it’s pretty futile and actually pointless to try to fully insulate them against swearing. 

    Educating them about swear words and why we need to be careful about using them is one thing, but when they start reading them used so casually in forums, it normalises that kind of language to them (and us for that matter). I don’t think that’s a good thing.

    This is a great website full of useful stuff, but it’s a shame that we cannot be more inclusive – my kids love cycling – doing and reading about it – but I’d think twice about forwarding them articles from here for them to read, simply because the tone of some comments is starting to normalise some really rather appalling language. Context is everything, and this is a public place.

    November 16, 2016 at 4:04 pm #881909
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    jacknorell

    Could I recommend a browser

    Could I recommend a browser plugin to remove profanity for you? Will be a lot more useful for your delicate sensibilities than trying to censor others.

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/webcensor-profanity-filte/ecpmlmghgijjnigjidogbabcahlobodo?hl=en

    Available for Firefox with just a little Googling too.

    November 16, 2016 at 2:55 pm #881907
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    brooksby
    wycombewheeler wrote:
    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    This forum seems quite the gentleman’s club to me. There are some really retched hives of scum and villiany out there.

    True but there are not many cyclists in mos eisley, so they don’t come on here.

    I just assumed they had to use gravel bikes.

    November 16, 2016 at 2:47 pm #881905
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    newtonk

    Great thread.

    Great thread.

    Regarding the kids, while I don’t go effin and jeffin too much in front of them, I think it’s pretty futile and actually pointless to try to fully insulate them against swearing. 

    The power and reach of a well thought out swear word, especially for young and impressionable minds can be immeasurable:  Generations of insulated, suburban & rural kids across the country (outside the big cities) probably learned more about the world from listening to bootleg tapes of NWA and Snoop Dogg (or later from the likes of Nas, Jay-Z) than we ever would have from the World Service.  The appeal of the language contained in this music was like catnip to us as pre-teens!

    When my boy is old enough to understand it, he’s having a sit-down lesson with daddy in social science through music, feat. all the above plus, Black Flag, Sex Pistols, Plan B, Run The Jewels and the rest! After that we’ll bust out Bukowski…

     

    November 16, 2016 at 2:11 pm #881903
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    BikeBud

    Context is important.

    Context is important.  Sometimes a word can convey strength of feeling unlike anything else.  

    I sometimes use them about someone in an article, but wouldn’t use them about someone writing on the forum.  

    November 16, 2016 at 2:08 pm #881901
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    hawkinspeter

    I always try to avoid using

    I always try to avoid using “swear” words here, but I don’t have any problem with other people using them. As far as I know, all languagues feature swearing and it’s a valuable part of communication (although it becomes diluted when used all the time).

    Road.cc seems to strike a good balance between restricting users’ comments and not being overly abusive. I don’t think we need to change it at all.

    November 16, 2016 at 1:16 pm #881899
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    Anonymous
    wycombewheeler wrote:
    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    This forum seems quite the gentleman’s club to me. There are some really retched hives of scum and villiany out there.

    True but there are not many cyclists in mos eisley, so they don’t come on here.

    Use the forks, Luke. (discs or caliper?)

    November 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm #881897
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    wycombewheeler
    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    This forum seems quite the gentleman’s club to me. There are some really retched hives of scum and villiany out there.

    True but there are not many cyclists in mos eisley, so they don’t come on here.

    November 16, 2016 at 1:08 pm #881895
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    peted76

    Most of us experience or take

    Most of us experience or take part in swearing every day. However I did used to run a computer tech forum and I clearly remember spending a a couple of hours updating the forum ‘dictionary’ to replace a bad word with a fluffy ones and sometimes just characters ‘#@£%^^!’ my morallity, my forum, my rules.

    I was brought up to believe that people who swore could better represent themselves by being more imaginative with our shared language. I still believe that and sometimes when I swear (which is reguarly) internally I flagellate myself .

     

    As a father of one daughter in year3, I still flinch and feel a little bit sad when I hear her peers use swear words. No matter how desensitised we as adults get to swearing, there will be a point at which our children pick up on these words.  

    Should we ‘protect’ them from these words? Or should we embrace and educate the young to these words? Do we narrow or expand their world by doing so? (similar to the what age for sex education question?)I don’t know the answer, but I do think that anyone without children should show respect for the young’uns wherever possible.  I also believe that anyone who shows a lack of respect for this unwritten but moral code degrades our society.  

    There’s a nice fellow in my club (mid 20’s just out of Uni, well edumacated, reasonable rider and kind with his time) turned up to a club meeting asking what part of his £20 dues were going towards him, our club is 200+ and includes MTB, roadies of all types, CX, Kids. His point (and my point) was that there was money being spent on training first aiders, coaches to develop the club and in particular on kids development.. but he didn’t benefit from any of this. He was quite enraged about this point. He didn’t get any direct benefit from his annual £20 being spent in this way.  His contribution goes into the pot and it was spent to lay foundations for the club for years to come, his biggest gripe about spending money on kids development just showed him to be a selfish human being. The whole point here is that it’s fine to have these ‘inward views on your personal rights and laws and regulations to the letter’ but you will be branded ankles*, by people like me who want to see a bit more common sense to be administered in life. 

     

     

    *lower than a cunt.

    November 16, 2016 at 12:51 pm #881893
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    Anonymous
    Anthony.C wrote:
    You have to be a real anarchistic rebel to type swear words on an internet forum.. I just worry what on earth these bad boys are going to do next ? 

    what happened to the comment about ‘common’ people’s language?

    November 16, 2016 at 12:46 pm #881891
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    fukawitribe
    unconstituted wrote:
    Anthony.C wrote:
    You have to be a real anarchistic rebel to type swear words on an internet forum.. I just worry what on earth these bad boys are going to do next ? 

     

    Maybe move on to making bitchy comments?

     

    Is snide > bitchy ? I never can remember….     😉

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