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  • June 12, 2016 at 6:57 pm #25879
    Jimnm

    Britain is on the verge of gridlock, anyone got an ideas that could reduce the absolutely huge numbers of cars on our roads. The school runs are particular bad, it would appear that it’s not cool to walk to school anymore.

    Society has lost the plot. IMO

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  • June 15, 2016 at 8:03 am #873353
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    medic_ollie
    Jimnm wrote:
    vonhelmet wrote:
    Jimnm wrote:
    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    Antibiotics have never been able to stop viruses. What are you talking about?

    i never said stop the virus,  antibiotics aid recovery once you have been infected.

    chill out man.

    Aid recovery after infection? It’s belief like that that causes over prescription of antibiotics.  They only affect bacterial infection and there are plenty that work; it just depends on what bacteria you are infected with. 

    June 14, 2016 at 8:34 pm #873351
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    Jimnm
    Duncann wrote:
    “Britain is on the verge of gridlock”

    No it isn’t.

    Congestion is a problem, acute in places and at particular times but the country is not gridlocked. In many cities, traffic levels have fallen in recent decades.

    The solutions to congestion are many: increasing road capacity in some places (sometimes decreasing it elsewhere), improving the alternatives (inc. cycling), better traffic management, demand management through pricing , reducing the need to travel (particularly at peak times), etc. However, there is little political will or investment to do much of this in a serious manner.

     it’s just my opinion,  where I live the traffic volume is massive.  The fact is there are too many vehicles on our roads and building new roads or expanding current roads is a short term solution. On motorways one breakdown or accident causes huge delays. Politicians don’t have the will, the more vehicles on the road the more revenue for the exchequer. It’s a cash cow.  IMO

    June 14, 2016 at 10:05 am #873349
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    Dnnnnnn

    “Britain is on the verge of

    “Britain is on the verge of gridlock”

    No it isn’t.

    Congestion is a problem, acute in places and at particular times but the country is not gridlocked. In many cities, traffic levels have fallen in recent decades.

    The solutions to congestion are many: increasing road capacity in some places (sometimes decreasing it elsewhere), improving the alternatives (inc. cycling), better traffic management, demand management through pricing , reducing the need to travel (particularly at peak times), etc. However, there is little political will or investment to do much of this in a serious manner.

    June 14, 2016 at 8:38 am #873347
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    Jimnm
    fukawitribe wrote:
    Jimnm wrote:
    vonhelmet wrote:
    Jimnm wrote:
    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    o

    Antibiotics have never been able to stop viruses. What are you talking about?

    i never said stop the virus,  antibiotics aid recovery once you have been infected.

    That’s not even wrong.

    Jimnm wrote:
    chill out man.

    A simple “oops, silly me” would have done.

    oops silly U lol 

    June 14, 2016 at 8:20 am #873345
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    bikebot
    Butty wrote:
    Move the car drivers to bikes and you’ll have gridlock.

    Get them walking and it will be gridlock.

    There’s just too many people for the space and resources, mainly in the SE.

    The solution is not a vote winner and not very pleasant.

    Hopefully it will be by natural means and not affect me or my relatives and friends.

    it’s all so black. 

    By international comparison., the UK (or even SE England) really isn’t that densely populated.  

    Excluding the minor states and principalties of Europe (Monaco, the Vatican etc), guess which country has the highest population density?

    June 14, 2016 at 8:07 am #873343
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    fukawitribe
    Jimnm wrote:
    vonhelmet wrote:
    Jimnm wrote:
    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    Antibiotics have never been able to stop viruses. What are you talking about?

    i never said stop the virus,  antibiotics aid recovery once you have been infected.

    That’s not even wrong.

    Jimnm wrote:
    chill out man.

    A simple “oops, silly me” would have done.

    June 14, 2016 at 8:01 am #873341
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    bikebot
    L.Willo wrote:
    Long term? Drones.

    Step in, punch in your destination, wait for central services to send you a flight path and adjust the flight paths of all the other drones in the area. Take off, land at the nearest nuclear powered electrical charging point, job done.

    Willo is posting from the 1950’s.

    June 14, 2016 at 6:54 am #873339
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    L.Willo

    Long term? Drones.

    Long term? Drones.

    Step in, punch in your destination, wait for central services to send you a flight path and adjust the flight paths of all the other drones in the area. Take off, land at the nearest nuclear powered electrical charging point, job done.

    Short term, driverless cars will manage traffic better than humans.

    But I think the fundamental problem with your question is that you are starting with a solution not tackling the objective. What is the real problem here? Air quality? Slow transit times? Aesthetics?

    The best solution to those problems may not be reducing the number of cars. Taking other action might be much more effective.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36402942

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36423250

     

     

    June 14, 2016 at 6:12 am #873337
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    Jimnm
    vonhelmet wrote:
    Jimnm wrote:
    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    Antibiotics have never been able to stop viruses. What are you talking about?

    i never said stop the virus,  antibiotics aid recovery once you have been infected.

    chill out man.

    June 14, 2016 at 5:29 am #873335
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    tritecommentbot
    Butty wrote:
    Move the car drivers to bikes and you’ll have gridlock.

    Get them walking and it will be gridlock.

    There’s just too many people for the space and resources, mainly in the SE.

    The solution is not a vote winner and not very pleasant.

    Hopefully it will be by natural means and not affect me or my relatives and friends.

     

    it’s all so black. 

     

    Cars for commuting clearly are a disaster in terms of space. See:

    http://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/10/if-bicycles-took-up-as-much-space-as-cars/381300/

    June 13, 2016 at 10:09 pm #873333
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    Bob Wheeler CX

    OPEC & BREXIT

    OPEC & BREXIT

    Petrol and Euro car prices up. Make the test harder as well. I hate riding alongside cars, after having bikes and body crumpled by them a few times, and rarely ride on motorways or busy main roads now…

    June 13, 2016 at 9:53 pm #873331
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    vonhelmet
    Jimnm wrote:
    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    Antibiotics have never been able to stop viruses. What are you talking about?

    June 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm #873329
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    Jimnm

    Butty, 

    Butty, 

    it’s likely that the top of  the food chain will sort things out (The Virus) due to over prescribed antibiotics apparently there is only one that actual works for now.  That will be the natural disaster.

    so true, the outlook is black ⚰

    June 13, 2016 at 7:10 pm #873327
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    Anonymous

    Move the car drivers to bikes

    Move the car drivers to bikes and you’ll have gridlock.

    Get them walking and it will be gridlock.

    There’s just too many people for the space and resources, mainly in the SE.

    The solution is not a vote winner and not very pleasant.

    Hopefully it will be by natural means and not affect me or my relatives and friends.

     

    it’s all so black. 

    June 13, 2016 at 2:16 pm #873325
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    vonhelmet

    Who cares how posh Vine is.

    Who cares how posh Vine is. Does that devalue his comments on cycling. Good grief. Argument fail.

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