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December 14, 2015 at 12:23 pm #25160
BrokenBootneck
Today I forgot my swipe card for the bike storage locker, my lock was also in there and I couldn’t gain access, I instead brought my bike in the office. I stored it in the corner out of the way and not in the way of any fire escapes or routes, it is completely out of the way.
I have now been told it’s a health and safety risk!
Can anyone confirm this or had any similar issues?
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BrokenBootneck
Cheers for all the feedback,
Cheers for all the feedback, problem solved now as Estates have spare swipe cards which you can sign out should you forget yours. Seemed they had not thought of that!
crazy-legs
We weren’t supposed to keep
We weren’t supposed to keep bikes in our rooms at uni as they were deemed a fire risk. This in spite of the fact that nearly every night, the fire brigade would be called out to someone somewhere in the halls of residence setting off the fire alarm by burning toast!
Never saw a bike do that so it stayed in my room!
Had similar in an office temp job that I did one day a week when I was a student, a vehemently anti-cycling office manager who again claimed fire risk / health & safety (I had my own little office, it was fine in there, completely out of the way) and she once had a proper screaming fit at me. I got round that one by putting it into one of the toilet cubicles on it’s rear wheel, closing the door and putting an Out Of Order sign on the cubicle door. Funny how that cubicle was always out of order one day a week…
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Zermattjohn wrote:
Zermattjohn wrote:Next time one of those delightedly new over the top mums come in to work while on maternity to show off their new sprog, that pram’s going in the bike shed.I was once wheeling my MTB with infant daughter in her child seat on the back, I can’t remember where, but wherever it was a jobsworth popped up to tell me “you can’t bring a bike in here sir”, to which I replied “it’s not a bike, it’s a baby buggy”. He gave me a wry smile and let me continue.
bigshape
I hate the health and safety
I hate the health and safety bs. I’m no longer allowed to hang wet gear on a drying rail on a radiator as it’s a fire risk.
I do it all the time at home and my house is yet to catch fire…
andy_hindle
 Its the claim culture that
Its the claim culture that has your employer worried. If, if someone fell over your bike, or it fell on them, or it bit them or something. That person would have good grounds for a claim. The bike shouldnt have been there in the first place when you have a storage facility to put them in. I know its ludicrous but thats the kind of thing that the ambulace chasing parasitic solicitors love to get there teeth into. Thats what your employer is trying to protect against.
Let me tell you from experiance that something as silly as this can easily lead to a payout. Thats what your employer will be trying to protect themselves against.
Zermattjohn
Next time one of those
Next time one of those delightedly new over the top mums come in to work while on maternity to show off their new sprog, that pram’s going in the bike shed.wknight
The last time I was
The last time I was challenged taking my bike into an office, I told the person that it was worth more than the average car in the car park and not to worry, when its stolen, I will tell the CEO that you forced me to take it outside when I was going to put it in my office out of the way.
He let me pass.
Coach H
Kapelmuur wrote:Nothing to do with bikes, but my best H&S story is that one night I left the office having forgotten to unplug an electrical item.When I arrived next day I had a visit from the H&S rep who administered a lengthy bollocking, which I was prepared to accept as I realised that the item could have caused a fire.
However, he didn’t mention this so I asked him what was his actual problem from a H&S perspective.
He spluttered a little and eventually told me that a burglar could have broken in, tripped over the cable, injured himself and sued the company.
Pretty sure it wasn’t an H&S story or even your best one.
Unless you had left plugged in a hot air gun pointed at something combustable (for example), at best is a tale about peoples idiotic behavior when trying, and failing, to demonstrate they have ‘power’
Kapelmuur
Nothing to do with bikes, but
Nothing to do with bikes, but my best H&S story is that one night I left the office having forgotten to unplug an electrical item.
When I arrived next day I had a visit from the H&S rep who administered a lengthy bollocking, which I was prepared to accept as I realised that the item could have caused a fire.
However, he didn’t mention this so I asked him what was his actual problem from a H&S perspective.
He spluttered a little and eventually told me that a burglar could have broken in, tripped over the cable, injured himself and sued the company.
Coach H
As others have said its got
As others have said its got nothing to do with H&S.
Unless the bike is blocking a walkway (unlikely) its not an H&S issue. Dont bother talking about risk assessment. Forget the parts of HASWA listed above. Absolutely forget about Dynamic risk assessment (even POWRA) as unless you are in the emergency services facing an emergency situation they are less use to you, practically or in Law, than a chocolate fireguard.
If you are being told by a competent H&S person they wont be able to justify why. If they are not a competent H&S person they are just making it up because THEY dont want your bike in the office.
Coach H – Chartered H&S Practitioner (dealing with this type of $h*t and real H&S for over 20 years)
Coach H
Al__S wrote:I’ve heard an awful lot of tales (and experience one myself) of H&S managers that are just vehmently anti-bike.Really?
Please provide details (not rumours) or this comment is no better than the idiot claiming ‘elf and safety
Sideshowdave
Under the HASAWA 1974 section
Under the HASAWA 1974 section 2 the employer has the duty of care to make a safe working environment and to give means of safe access to and egress to and from the work place , so if it’s in anyone’s way at all it is a reasonably foreseeable hazard.
also under section 7 of the HASAWA 1974 all employees have a duty while at work to take reasonable care for the health and safety of him/herself and of other persons who may be affected by his/her acts or omissions at work, so is also an issue here.
But putting that aside, just say you have done a dynamic risk assessment (or a POWRA) to store your bike there and taken the appropriate actions to reduce the hazards to an acceptable level( e.g. Not put it in any walk ways or escape routes and told people working close to it not to touch your bike) and tell him to sod off 😉
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Al__S wrote:I’ve heard an awful lot of tales (and experience one myself) of H&S managers that are just vehmently anti-bike.Point out that it’s both healthier and safer than his car in the car park.
Al__S
I’ve heard an awful lot of
I’ve heard an awful lot of tales (and experience one myself) of H&S managers that are just vehmently anti-bike.
Wookie
LarryDavidJr wrote:Wesselwookie wrote:Our Office has the same policy. No bikes in the Office, not even folding ones (unless they’re in bags). Its not Health and Safety. They just don’t want shit all over the carpets.Do you all wear slippers at work then? 😉
No but apparently bikes are very “dirty” and will leave trails everywhere like snails
. I dont claim to agree with the policy just that we have one. -
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