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  • April 23, 2015 at 8:16 am #842795
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    brooksby

    Al__S wrote:I was doing 15mph

    Al__S wrote:
    I was doing 15mph across a level crossing with double white lines the other day, got overtaken by a police car…

    The problem with the whole double white lines thing, is that so many motorists don’t think overtaking a cyclist is “proper” overtaking; hence it must be OK to do it even if there are double white lines.

    April 23, 2015 at 7:41 am #842793
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    Al__S

    I was doing 15mph across a
    I was doing 15mph across a level crossing with double white lines the other day, got overtaken by a police car…

    April 23, 2015 at 7:11 am #842791
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    Batchy

    How many times have you been
    How many times have you been out on your bike doing 29.9mph in a 30mph limit and have been overtaken? Well me personally I’ve lost count and the same thing with doing 25mph where double white lines have been crossed by overtaking vehicles.! ( only when a vehicle is travelling at less than 10mph can you legally cross double white lines )

    April 23, 2015 at 6:33 am #842789
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    OldRidgeback

    bigshape wrote:ianrobo

    bigshape wrote:
    ianrobo wrote:
    It is simple if you do not speed you will not get fined, why is that simple rule ignored ?

    well, as you’ve been caught for speeding, surely you’re in the best position to answer that question?

    Well me too, I was caught a few years back. I did the speed awareness course and have been very careful since. I was only a bit over the limit but still enough to be caught speeding. I thought it wasn’t much, but I learned a lesson.

    I’ve noticed how much fuel I save since I started being really careful about my speed. I wish more drivers would realise they’d save themselves money by sticking to the limit, and they rarely get where they’re going much quicker anyway.

    April 23, 2015 at 1:18 am #842787
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    Shep73

    Joeinpoole wrote:jacknorell

    Joeinpoole wrote:
    jacknorell wrote:
    Joeinpoole wrote:
    There is also no direct relationship between speed and deaths on the roads as you infer.

    Wrong, higher speeds in a collision causes more damage, in a non-linear and rising fashion. I.e. if you’re hit at 20mph as a pedestrian you likely live, at 30 mph you’re likely dead.

    Thanks for quoting me out of context. You fail to explain why the roads on which the highest speeds are driven also happen to be the safest.


    Well you did use facts against those who like to bash car drivers, brought it on yourself.

    April 23, 2015 at 1:02 am #842785
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    Joeinpoole

    jacknorell wrote:Joeinpoole

    jacknorell wrote:
    Joeinpoole wrote:
    There is also no direct relationship between speed and deaths on the roads as you infer.

    Wrong, higher speeds in a collision causes more damage, in a non-linear and rising fashion. I.e. if you’re hit at 20mph as a pedestrian you likely live, at 30 mph you’re likely dead.

    Thanks for quoting me out of context. You fail to explain why the roads on which the highest speeds are driven also happen to be the safest.

    April 22, 2015 at 11:21 pm #842783
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    Shep73

    Because most drivers would
    Because most drivers would rather more police on the roads, you know so they can also catch drunk drivers, people on phones and people jumping red lights, (which seems to be ok to do for the commuter cyclist brigade). Bad driving below the speed limit is just as likely to cause harm as doing 35 in a 30.

    April 22, 2015 at 10:30 pm #842781
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    fenix

    The local tv had an article
    The local tv had an article on drivers speeding past a primary school. If caught it was £100 fine or go and be interviewed by a panel of school kids. One of their pals was killed by a van going at 20 mph last year. He was five. Heart breaking stuff.

    April 22, 2015 at 9:48 pm #842779
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    jacknorell

    Joeinpoole wrote:There is

    Joeinpoole wrote:
    There is also no direct relationship between speed and deaths on the roads as you infer.

    Wrong, higher speeds in a collision causes more damage, in a non-linear and rising fashion. I.e. if you’re hit at 20mph as a pedestrian you likely live, at 30 mph you’re likely dead.

    Fully agree on the phones, eating cereal, applying makeup, or whatever else stupid sh*t people get up to while (they should be) driving.

    April 22, 2015 at 9:45 pm #842777
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    Simon E

    climber wrote: Speeding

    climber wrote:
    Speeding generally isn’t seen as ‘anti social’ in the way that other crimes are.

    True. Many consider things like speeding, using a mobile phone and flouting many of the rules in the Highway Code as not serious. They invariably have an inflated idea of their own ability (and importance) when behind the wheel.

    Perhaps if they got to experience that “Oh shiiiit!” reaction when 3 tonnes of Chelsea Tractor swooshes by at close quarters they might rethink it.

    If you put a yummy mummy’s own child on the bike she’s passing we would see her drive very differently. It would cost her nothing to be similarly considerate around someone else’s child, including grown-up ones.

    April 22, 2015 at 8:12 pm #842775
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    ianrobo

    No Pablo no link bait at all,
    No Pablo no link bait at all, just for fun.

    As for your points I totally agree and certainly on Urban roads in the cities we need a redesign.

    April 22, 2015 at 7:22 pm #842773
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    pablo

    Sorry didn’t read your blog
    Sorry didn’t read your blog post felt it was a bit clickbait and your original post was a little strong hence the question. I did look at the numbers and the rather good Google map the newspaper put together i use a lot of the roads covered. Personally some of the sites (top ones) feel more to do with revenue but others are definitely areas where speeds should be controlled.

    Speeding will always be a contentious subject the simple fact is if you want people to slow down roads need to be redesigned or technology introduced. Until recently the only real option to limit speeds was via the policeman or a speed camera, with advances and the reduction in prices it could now be done in vehicle.
    I’m torn on this one because I love cars i have 2 personal cars and have always worked in the car industry but on the other hand I love bikes (I have 3 of those). Speeding in built up areas to me personally is not acceptable but I also feel that nudging over the limit in appropriate locations is acceptable within my own personal limit and at my own risk.
    I ride my bike for the feeling of freedom it gives me I’m not sure how I’d feel if when I went above 30mph going down hill the brakes were jammed on. I feel the same about my cars.

    This argument can never be won by either side the only thing we can all agree on is you should be considerate to other road users and pedestrians.

    April 22, 2015 at 7:01 pm #842771
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    Joeinpoole

    Actually, as a cyclist, I am
    Actually, as a cyclist, I am far more concerned about motorists using mobile phones at the wheel than I am about them speeding. That’s where I want the police to take action and the government to increase penalties.

    In your blog you talk of 3K people per year dying on UK roads but actually the number is down to 1.7K and steadily reducing.

    There is also no direct relationship between speed and deaths on the roads as you infer. The roads with the highest speed limits, motorways and dual carriageways, also happen to be the safest to travel on.

    As a cyclist I feel I am most likely to be injured or killed by a motorist who is simply not paying attention to the road rather than one who is speeding.

    I know, as someone who used to speed all the time when I was young and foolish, whenever you are speeding you tend to be particularly alert. To some degree that was why I did it … it was simply more stimulating.

    April 22, 2015 at 6:56 pm #842769
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    ianrobo

    I firmly believe every driver
    I firmly believe every driver should be 1) retested every 10 years and 2) be forced to go on one of the driver awareness courses at the same time. It is total nonsense you can pass at 17 and not be tested for another 50 years.

    April 22, 2015 at 6:56 pm #842767
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    ianrobo

    I firmly believe every driver
    I firmly believe every driver should be 1) retested every 10 years and 2) be forced to go on one of the driver awareness courses at the same time. It is total nonsense you can pass at 17 and not be tested for another 50 years.

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