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reported a dangerous driver – now charged with dangerous cycling. Help please

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  • March 15, 2015 at 9:52 am #23509
    smileydave

    I need some help and advice.

    i was cut up by a taxi, so shouted at him to give me some room.
    as I came along his inside, he engaged me in conversation. I held onto his window frame to balance (clippy pedals), while we discussed highway code rule 163. He drove off without warning. I was in the impossible position of holding onto a (now) moving vehicle, knowing that if I let go I would definitely fall over, so I held on in the hope i could stabilise my self and come off safely – needless to say i didn’t, since he continued to accelerate. He refused to give his details

    I reported the driver to the police and have this week received a summons, charging me with dangerous driving.

    Needless to say i am furious. I’ve been stitched up by the system – they only have my details because I reported the taxi driver myself.

    an initial consultation with a solicitor is going to cost me £300, and possibly up to £2000 in defence costs. I’ve discussed the case with a JP, who thinks it should ever have come to court. but since it has, I’m forced to act.
    the best financial solution, sadly is to take my lumps and plead guilty.

    I’m wating to find out if my initial statement was ever received by the case manager – I can’t believe that if they’d read both sides of the story they would have prosecuted me

    I cannot believe that it was in teh public interest to prosecute me, the victim.

    I think that this case will discourage cyclists from reporting dangerous driving, and if anything will encourage them to take the law into their own hands. If i’d scratched him and fucked off, I’d have got off scot free and had my revenge.

    thoughts help and advice please kind people of road.cc

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  • March 15, 2015 at 11:48 am #837089
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    racyrich

    ChrisB200SX wrote:It read to

    ChrisB200SX wrote:
    It read to me that he was holding on to a stationery vehicle, and then the taxi drove off. He couldn’t avoid breaking rule #68 because he doesn’t know it’s a moving vehicle until it is a moving vehicle. I believe rule #68 is intended to apply to vehicles that are already moving. Is there a rule which states you shouldn’t pull away if someone is holding onto your vehicle or trailer?

    Well, the guard of a train in Liverpool is currently doing 5 years for manslaughter for giving the right away when a girl was leant on the train.

    So yes, I’d say a person in charge of a vehicle, especially a vehicle designed for public carriage, has a duty to the people around it.

    March 15, 2015 at 11:36 am #837087
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    ianrobo

    ChrisB200SX wrote:
    I don’t

    ChrisB200SX wrote:

    I don’t really see what the point of a case against you is though.

    It’s a taxi driver, the salt of the earth dontcha ya know …

    March 15, 2015 at 11:25 am #837085
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    ChrisB200SX

    It read to me that he was
    It read to me that he was holding on to a stationery vehicle, and then the taxi drove off. He couldn’t avoid breaking rule #68 because he doesn’t know it’s a moving vehicle until it is a moving vehicle. I believe rule #68 is intended to apply to vehicles that are already moving. Is there a rule which states you shouldn’t pull away if someone is holding onto your vehicle or trailer?
    That said, if you hold on to it for a period of time then you’ve kind of brought it upon yourself. Letting go straight away may well still have resulted in being thrown onto the road though, or maybe under the wheels, so was holding on until you thought you had control the only safe option?
    I don’t really see what the point of a case against you is though.

    March 15, 2015 at 11:25 am #837083
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    smileydave

    i was holding on to a
    i was holding on to a stationary taxi . he drove off knowing i was holding on – tha’s dangerous driving.

    i wans’t holding on to a moving vehicle by choice. if you were in exactly the same situation, what would you have done?

    if i had been a motorist, he wounld’t have cut me up, because i was in the middle of the road. i wa only cut up because i was a cyclist.

    he argued with me – I didn’t want to get in an argument with him – if it was down to me I’d have sworn at him and fucked off.

    I could ahve been killed because of a dangerous taxi driver, and you think I”m painting myself as a victim? you need to take a long hard look at yourself.
    I”m fed up with near misses on a daily basis.

    March 15, 2015 at 11:20 am #837081
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    ianrobo

    I would plead guilty explain
    I would plead guilty explain the situation as you did and hope the magistrate is sensible.

    Seriously I would never plead guilty to something I know I am not. If it costs, set up a defence fund, I will pledge a tenner now, if 200 of us did it.

    March 15, 2015 at 11:13 am #837079
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    smileydave

    came down hard on left hand
    came down hard on left hand side, scraped arm, still scarred 4 months later.
    handlebars bent at 45 degrees to wheel, computer loast, light broken.

    he stoped but refused lo give details, lied through his arse on his statement

    March 15, 2015 at 10:57 am #837077
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    robert.brady

    I’m afraid to say you’ve
    I’m afraid to say you’ve stitched yourself up. Rule 68 of the Highway Code states you MUST NOT hold onto a moving vehicle or trailer. If you were too unstable as to need the support of the car, you should have put a foot down.

    If you reported him for cutting you up then surely you realise that’s too subjective for the police to act with no evidence? And it sounds like his driving wasn’t that dangerous until you argued with him and if you weren’t holding on to his car even, that wouldn’t have been dangerous.

    It annoys me when cyclists see themselves as hard-done-to victims. If he’d had cut up a motorist it would probably have been a blast of the horn and then been forgotten about.

    March 15, 2015 at 10:46 am #837075
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    Flying Scot

    So what happen when he drove
    So what happen when he drove off? Did you come off and damage anything other than yourself?

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