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  • February 27, 2015 at 9:29 am #23372
    Barrybiker

    Helmets Yes or No?

    Last year on 17 th July I was struck by a 4/4 driver who apparently “didn,t see me” I suffered life changing injuries,almost complete severance of my right arm ,broken ribs,concussion and a brain bleed,if I hadn,t been wearing a decent lid I don,t think I,d be here so my point is it might not be your fault when or if you get hit,but that lid WILL save you.

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  • April 4, 2016 at 12:31 pm #833995
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    zanf

    Wearing a helmet:

    Wearing a helmet:

    increased risk management from cyclists
    increased risk management from drivers
    Increased neck injuries despite statistically lower head injuries
    Increased inability to distinguish between a comma and an apostrophe, or punctuate sentences.

     

    April 4, 2016 at 12:09 pm #833993
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    Paul J

    Judge dreadful wrote:

    Judge dreadful wrote:
    I’m pro lid wearing. I think nothing of spending 3 or 4 hundred quid on cycle helmets. That’s my choice. I also really don’t mind if others choose not to wear a helmet, they aren’t forced to by law (yet), that’s their choice.

    And it’s that ominous “yet” in your comment that makes many others so vociferous about turning helmet debates away from the “I had a crash, my helmet broke, my head didn’t, so they must be good!” type anecdotes towards statistically more sound facts:

    – Helmet laws have not lead to increased cyclist safety in any country that has these implemented them – indeed, there is has been *decrease* in safety on some measures in the likes of NZ.

    – Helmets laws reduce the number of people who cycle, and are particularly discouraging to casual, about town use.

    – The countries with the *safest* cycling and with *mass* cycling, do NOT have helmet laws and indeed have negligible rates of helmet use. So it is *irrefutably clear* that helmets are *not* required for safe, mass cycling.

    – population wide, the health benefits of cycling greatly outweigh any risks of cycling – with or without helmets. Therefore, any measure that discourages cycling will be *bad for public health*.

    April 4, 2016 at 10:29 am #833991
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    Martyn_K

    I wear a helmet but i’m under

    I wear a helmet but i’m under no illusion as to it’s effectiveness if i was hit by a car/ truck/ bus. Any impact with a large chunk of metal at any speed is going to cause more injures than a helmet can mitigate against.

    I wear a lid for potential low speed issues. Not being able to unclip and falling on to a kerb stone corner, not being able to scrub off enough speed on a corner and bailing out towards a wall etc. A couple of weeks ago i was zipping along a country lane, went around a tight left corner with limited visability and a bramble branch was poking out about face height. I thought nothing of dipping my head and letting the helmet take the impact. If had not been wearing one i would likely have suffered some pretty nasty cuts and lacerations to my face/ head.

    In a small amount of cases a helmet may be effective a saving a life. But i think most of the time it does the job of preventing an injury that would cause discomfort or a bit of time off the bike.

     

    March 31, 2016 at 2:13 pm #833989
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    EddyP

    Good point, I am happy that

    Good point, I am happy that you are well now my friend. It’s crucial to wear helmet, there is no question about that. 

    February 28, 2015 at 9:42 am #833987
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    ciderman_100

    it’s choice who the hell can
    it’s choice who the hell can tell anybody what to do as long as you are civil and polite to your fellow human being then live and let live. We live in a very health and safety driven culture, and perhaps people who tell you what to do are jealous of the free spirit of the none conformers, how often do you hear the phrase ” Their strange they are ” just because they don’t conform to the masses thinking. If you don’t want to wear a helmet then don’t if you do then please feel free to do so, BUT do not try to impose your thinking on me or other people who dare to say no to you or other Orwellian holier than thou people. Life is about choices and if they are different to yours so be it.

    For the record I wear a helmet when on my fast road bike ( I’m currently in bed with a broken hip from smidsy incident 26mph into a car) yes my helmet saved my head. When I am on my vintage flying gate on a club run speeds very rarely go above 15mph so no helmet its all about danger perception, We are not made of sugar and we do not need to be wrapped up in cotton wool.

    February 28, 2015 at 9:28 am #833985
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    issacforce

    i must be a pillock, cause i
    i must be a pillock, cause i wear one, but it my choice to be a pillock :H

    February 28, 2015 at 9:19 am #833983
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    Welsh boy

    My personal choice is based
    My personal choice is based on this:
    Next time you are doing 30mph in your car, look out of the window and ask yourself if you were to jump out at this speed, would you rather have some head protection on or not. Why should hitting the road at 30mph when coming off a bike be any different?

    February 28, 2015 at 6:51 am #833981
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    gazza_d

    I hope all these people who
    I hope all these people who swear by helmets wear them when in vehicles etc.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-y6vOEVEAA32VA.png:large
    Helmets are not designed to protect against impacts by vehicles. Infra prevents that.
    Helmets don’t protect against concussion & bleeds either.
    They should be personal choice based on personal risk assessment, nothing else.
    No compulsion, no evangelising.

    February 28, 2015 at 3:45 am #833979
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    pants

    Before wearing a seat belt in
    Before wearing a seat belt in cars was made compulsory, people argued that they don’t need it. They might have argued that if everyone drove or used the roads properly and they’d never need it. I am not saying everyone should wear one, I just think if a helmet offers us a bit of protection even 1 out of 10 falls, why not?

    February 28, 2015 at 12:03 am #833977
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    kwi

    I wear one, by choice, but
    I wear one, by choice, but have no illusions as to it’s effectiveness in collisions with fast moving cars. I have knackered one coming off on ice, but don’t claim it saved my life.
    Always liked this site.
    http://www.cyclehelmets.org/0.html

    February 27, 2015 at 11:51 pm #833975
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    PonteD

    Personally I’ll wear my
    Personally I’ll wear my helmet, most cyclists I see wear helmets, it’s rare that I see non helmet wearing cyclists these days TBH. If you don’t want a lid fine, if you do then that’s also fine!

    We’ve all made a choice, the law (or lack of a helmet law) allows us the freedom to make that choice. My children are made to wear a helmet, but that’s because I have to make that choice for them as their parent and since I choose to wear a lid, it is only natural I will choose for my children to also wear one. When they are adults and responsible for their own well being we can discuss the relative merits and if they choose to go lidless then that will be their choice and I will have to respect that choice.

    February 27, 2015 at 10:07 pm #833973
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    crikey

    Quote:Oh dear! Is it time to

    Oh dear! Is it time to dig out the definitions of “Anecdotal” and “Evidence”?

    Or do we just do ALL CAPS because shouting proves that we are right?

    Nice. Excellent deployment of the question mark, subtle but effective exclamation mark and accurate, timely and sensible quotation marks. Some may question the use of ‘Or’ to begin a sentence, but I think it acceptable in this instance.

    February 27, 2015 at 10:01 pm #833971
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    shay cycles

    Oh dear! Is it time to dig
    Oh dear! Is it time to dig out the definitions of “Anecdotal” and “Evidence”?

    Or do we just do ALL CAPS because shouting proves that we are right?

    February 27, 2015 at 9:55 pm #833969
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    crikey

    Edit: Just to point out that
    :H
    Edit: Just to point out that this thread is demonstrating an alarming confusion between the comma , and the apostrophe ‘ .

    If you are going to rehash yet another tiresome helmet related thread, let’s at least use it as learning exercise.

    February 27, 2015 at 9:55 pm #833967
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    Quince

    I’m Pillock.
    I’m Pillock.

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