Need a proper plan to reduce weight also increase my Road Cycling performance

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    Kalam

    Hi all, This is my 2nd post so apologies if this has been covered before. Need a proper plan to reduce weight also increase my Road Cycling performance. My weight around 242 Ibs and height is 5’7″. So i need a total training plan for both running & cycling which help to decrease weight & improve my road cycling performance. my cycling average speed is around 30 km/hr when I train but i can’t continue speeding up in longer distance as my friends do. if i do my avg pace decreased to 24-25 km/hr. so i fall behind. So all I need a proper training plan to increase my pace along with reducing my weight.

    Any advice gratefully received. Thanks in advance.

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  • #819585
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    cavasta

    There’s a wealth of
    There’s a wealth of informative and practical information on the Precision Nutrition website, including this infogram:

    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/fix-a-broken-diet-infographic

    Check out their blogs here:

    http://www.precisionnutrition.com/blog

    #819583
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    sergius

    It’s also worth noting that
    It’s also worth noting that once you understand your diet better, along with the impacts of what you eat – any weight you loose tends to stay off – unlike with fad diets.

    I dropped from 15.5 stone to 10.5, for the last couple of years I haven’t really had to watch what I eat carefully as I’ve gotten in good habits for the most part, yet I’ve stayed @ 10.5 stone without any bother.

    The occasional night when I have a drink (generally twice a week) or fancy some chocolate aren’t a big deal once you hit your ideal weight and as long as you keep up the cycling/exercise/vaguely balanced diet.

    #819581
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    upinthehills

    Someone earlier mentioned MY
    Someone earlier mentioned MY FITNESS PAL. Its brilliant and works if you use it and stick to it. You still eat, and eat lots. It’s just that you decide to have that bar of chocolate or something else less healthier.

    If your honest with yourself and don’t cheat it works really well and if you combine this with a Withings scale which has an app and weigh in every morning after sleep you get really motivated.

    My situation was that I was a little over weight a few months ago and read an article on buying light weight stuff for you bike. Article made the very valid point that we could all loose some weight before buying stuff. Lost 14kgs over three months and it’s changed what I do now as far as eating habits go. Now 11st 9lbs and I can gaurantee that with no other measures you will get faster, you will want to ride more because you’re faster and the weight stays off.

    I still weigh myself every morning as I am now weight stable. That’s it for me, just need to stay where I am at 11 9

    So my advice is don’t worry about the training as that will follow. Tackle the weight with fitness pal and buy a Withings Scale, which is better value by far than a pair of carbon wheels if you want to go fast.

    Good luck.

    #819579
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    CXR94Di2

    Some basic cardio work where
    Some basic cardio work where your vitals are monitored. If they go too high for the test, then off to see the doctors before you can start at a gym. My brother in law had one, he failed the blood pressure test so wasn’t allowed to workout in the gym until a doctor signed him as fit to do so 🙂

    #819577
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    J90

    Ripper wrote: he will send

    Ripper wrote:
    he will send you for a “stress test”

    What’s involved in a stress test exactly?

    #819575
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    Kalam

    Ripper wrote:Here’s how. If

    Ripper wrote:
    Here’s how. If you follow it, it will be a complete and proper plan to reduce excess weight, bring you down to the right BMI and also raise your pace.

    Because of your weight of 242lbs (109kg) I recommend biking rather than running…So let’s focus on the bike.

    Side note: Go to your doctor and tell him you ‘had’ some chest pains recently that happened when you were not doing anything strenuous, he will send you for a “stress test” and if necessary an echocardiogram. Either way you will find out whether you’re healthy enough for the training plan, as well as finding out both your 1. Resting heart rate, and: 2. your 90 to 100% BPM range. You will also find out if you have any blood pressure issues at elevated heart rate levels, and if yes, you will also then know at what point you should back-off when training. Armed with that information you can now get a heart rate monitor to keep tabs on your ticker.

    First thing to note is that you need to be committed and ready to change your lifestyle. Basically, you need to do whatever it takes. Right? This means changing your sleep patterns, eating differently and training conscientiously. All this must be done with unwavering commitment. You need to live the plan for 5 months – I do it from May to September. You will learn to go to bed at 9:30pm and wake up at 5:00am.

    5:00am – wake up and have a pint glass full of water. I personally prefer Robinsons or Sunquick or any similar juice/syrup dilute. You could add a pinch or two of sea-salt (NOT table salt) to bring up your electrolytes, especially if you have consumed any alcohol the day before. Try and stay off the grog.

    5:20am – Breakfast. Eat 2 or 4 biscuits of ‘Shredded Wheat’ in 200ml of unsweetened ‘Soya Milk’. You can add fruit if you like. Don’t drink normal milk at all.

    5:40am – On your bike. Take a bidon of water. You want to ride only about 10 miles (16km) and take the first 3km easy until you begin to warm up. Once you feel you’ve warmed up sufficiently you begin to push hard for 2 to 3 minutes or for as long as it’s comfortable. Then back off to about 50 percent (like you’re jogging). Think, walk =25%, jog =50%, stride =75% and sprint =100%.

    Relax and catch your breath at 50% for 3 minutes. When recovered enough, start striding (75%) for as long as you can. Keep an eye on your heart rate. I have a fairly low resting heart rate for my age, which is 51(bpm), and my heart rate climbs to between 155 and 165 while I’m striding and I keep it there for up to around 20 minutes before backing off. For you it will be different and you may have to back off earlier – back off to 50% and recover. Then keep repeating the process…all the way home.

    When I get home – after a bit of stretching and some hydration – I have a shower and have a small glass of warm (high protein) unsweetened ‘Soya milk’ and a sandwich before leaving to work at 7:30am.

    11:30am – Lunch. I usually have Pizza and a large green salad with boiled egg in it for lunch.

    5:20pm – Back home. I usually grab a Snickers Bar at the station and have it on the way home. When I get home I have a spoonful of virgin coconut oil, which helps burn fat as well as increasing energy expenditure – but this is a personal choice – it’s a helpful little trick I learned from the Samoan rugby sevens squad.

    6:00pm – On your bike. Once again try and do the same as the morning. 20 miles a day is not too much, but if you feel it’s too much to push in intervals, then you can take it a little easy. Try and pace yourself at about 60% of max for your entire ride. Don’t overdo, you are not trying to compete in a grand tour, just lose weight and increase your pace.

    As you lose weight your pace, endurance and climbing ability will increase. This is a given, so don’t worry about breaking records right now.

    7:00pm – Home. You should be back in an hour.

    8:00pm – Dinner. Here you want to forget about low-carb bollocks and make sure you consume 10g of carbs per 10kg of bodyweight (if you want to be a healthy cyclist). I’m 82kg and 6ft tall, and consume around 80g of pasta, rice or potatoes as staple, with grilled chicken breasts, grilled fish, chicken curry, chilli con carne with lean mince and lots of kidney (red) beans, etc. You can also remove the lean mince and eat soya meat if you prefer. Look up some healthy pasta/rice recipes you like. Refrain yourself from fatty pork, sausages and all that’s processed. Always add a salad.

    After dinner have a bit of chocolate and coffee…it will help your muscles recover while you sleep.

    9:30pm – Bedtime.

    Now, before anybody starts picking holes in this plan let me tell you that this is what works for me. I have tried to explain my plan without using technical scientific jargon like “reduce long-string saturated fats” because most people don’t know or care about what those are in the first place. If you feel you have a better plan, please share it. Thanks.

    Also, check out brianmac.co.uk and topendsports.com for a wealth of information you can use to become fitter and faster.

    I wish you success and hope you pull it off.

    Sorry for late reply. I liked ur plan. already i follow it. hope this plan take me to my goal. Thank you 🙂

    #819573
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    Kalam

    Thank you
    Thank you 🙂

    #819571
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    sergius

    mrmo wrote:OnTheRopes

    mrmo wrote:
    OnTheRopes wrote:
    mrmo wrote:
    Crosshair wrote:
    Download Myfitnesspal and log EVERY calorie you eat. It will scare you into realising what a greedy pig you’ve been.

    I logged every ride and every calorie for a week, came out i was under eating by 1500calories a day! Weight didn’t change so i guess something is out.

    just take the activity side with a pinch of salt.

    You can’t really expect to lose weight over one week, if that is what you mean.
    When you first start to train and diet you can actually GAIN weight, this usually happens to me after a long lay-off. Much of this can be attributed to water retention and should not be blamed on diet. If you are interested read this article http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/healthy-living-article/60/1050/why-do-i-seem-to-gain-weight-when-i-start-to/
    So, do not be dis-heartened by a lack of weight loss early on even though you are training hard and always hungry through diet.

    Sorry, not clear enough, it was late, I am not trying to loose weight, under 70kg and 6′, my weight fluctuates by a couple of pounds and has been stable for 20years. Going by the numbers over a week I had under-consumed over 10000cals, this was a normal week though with normal levels of food and exercise. Just cautioning that going by the numbers alone might not give the results you want. I think the calculations for exercise aren’t quite right.

    I used it for the calorific values of what I was eating, I’d second that they seem wildly optimistic for the additional calories burned by activities numbers.

    Basically it’s quite good for the “in” figures, and take the “out” numbers with a pinch of salt.

    #819569
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    mrmo

    OnTheRopes wrote:mrmo

    OnTheRopes wrote:
    mrmo wrote:
    Crosshair wrote:
    Download Myfitnesspal and log EVERY calorie you eat. It will scare you into realising what a greedy pig you’ve been.

    I logged every ride and every calorie for a week, came out i was under eating by 1500calories a day! Weight didn’t change so i guess something is out.

    just take the activity side with a pinch of salt.

    You can’t really expect to lose weight over one week, if that is what you mean.
    When you first start to train and diet you can actually GAIN weight, this usually happens to me after a long lay-off. Much of this can be attributed to water retention and should not be blamed on diet. If you are interested read this article http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/healthy-living-article/60/1050/why-do-i-seem-to-gain-weight-when-i-start-to/
    So, do not be dis-heartened by a lack of weight loss early on even though you are training hard and always hungry through diet.

    Sorry, not clear enough, it was late, I am not trying to loose weight, under 70kg and 6′, my weight fluctuates by a couple of pounds and has been stable for 20years. Going by the numbers over a week I had under-consumed over 10000cals, this was a normal week though with normal levels of food and exercise. Just cautioning that going by the numbers alone might not give the results you want. I think the calculations for exercise aren’t quite right.

    #819567
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    OnTheRopes

    OK so sorry for the long
    OK so sorry for the long boring post but I have typed it now so it is going up anyway 😉
    This is how I lose weight after a long lay off. I started training on late May and weighed 91.4 Kg at the time.
    I know from experience it will take me 5 to 6 months to get to race weight which is under 80kgs.

    Start by riding for an hour every other day. This should be on flat terrain where possible. The intensity should be ‘steady’ by steady this means working at what is also known at the ‘Gossip threshold’. If you can buy a heart rate monitor and work in zone 2. http://www.digifit.com/heartratezones/training-zones.asp?MaxHR=178&Age=56&RHR=43 use the Zoladz modified column. Whilst this is not the most accurate way, if you are unfit it is too early (in my opinion) to start doing proper max heart rate test and the above is good enough.

    Increase these one hour sessions to at least 4 times a week. During this you need to be careful what you eat. My diet is something like the following.

    Breakfast – I shredded Wheat and one slice toast and marmalade/

    Lunch – I make a salad with chopped leaves, tomatoes, green pepper, that kind of thing and add a little quinoa and some tuna or something. An apple for desert.

    If you need to snack in the day because your hunger pangs are so bad, eat another apple.

    Before training I will eat a little carbohydrate like a fig roll biscuit.

    Then I will train for the hour

    Evening meal – Similar to lunch just a slightly more interesting protein and a yoghurt and fruit for dessert.

    After a month start to push one or two rides up to an hour and a half each week. Same intensity, and then when you are ready once or twice up to two hour rides.

    All the time eating as above. If you crack on the diet, no worries just enjoy feeling full and go back to the diet.

    After you have done 1000 mile you should start to actually enjoy riding the bike and you will be reaping benefits now.

    Intensity can raise a little now and you can start doing hills and some harder efforts occasionally but generally keep it the same up to 2ooo miles which is a basic minimum for base training.
    All this time be monitoring your weight. Weigh yourself naked the same time of day for consistancy. This is not about accuracy but consistancy and record every Sundays weigh in for future reference. If you stick to this exercise and diet you will lose weight.

    For the record here is how my weigh went over several weeks recorded every Sunday.

    Week1 – 91.3 Kgs
    Week2 – 91.7 Kgs (the day before it was 90.9)
    Week3 – 90.7
    Week4 – Holiday no riding for a week
    Week5 – 90.4
    Week6 – missed the weigh in
    Week7 – 88.4
    Week8 – 86.9
    Week9 – 87.2
    Week10 – 86.0

    I finally hit 80Kgs my target by week 17. You can see some fluctuation and week 2 I am almost half a Kilo heavier despite training and hunger pangs all week. There was further fluctuation on mid week weigh ins so probably best to ignore these if you weigh yourself every day and just record the same day once a week.

    #819565
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    OnTheRopes

    mrmo wrote:Crosshair

    mrmo wrote:
    Crosshair wrote:
    Download Myfitnesspal and log EVERY calorie you eat. It will scare you into realising what a greedy pig you’ve been.

    I logged every ride and every calorie for a week, came out i was under eating by 1500calories a day! Weight didn’t change so i guess something is out.

    just take the activity side with a pinch of salt.

    You can’t really expect to lose weight over one week, if that is what you mean.
    When you first start to train and diet you can actually GAIN weight, this usually happens to me after a long lay-off. Much of this can be attributed to water retention and should not be blamed on diet. If you are interested read this article http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/healthy-living-article/60/1050/why-do-i-seem-to-gain-weight-when-i-start-to/
    So, do not be dis-heartened by a lack of weight loss early on even though you are training hard and always hungry through diet.

    #819563
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    mrmo

    Crosshair wrote:Download

    Crosshair wrote:
    Download Myfitnesspal and log EVERY calorie you eat. It will scare you into realising what a greedy pig you’ve been.

    I logged every ride and every calorie for a week, came out i was under eating by 1500calories a day! Weight didn’t change so i guess something is out.

    just take the activity side with a pinch of salt.

    #819561
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    Crosshair

    Download Myfitnesspal and log
    Download Myfitnesspal and log EVERY calorie you eat. It will scare you into realising what a greedy pig you’ve been.

    I’ve been using it for 58 days now and try to only just under eat as I’m trying to get stronger as well as lose weight. I’ve lost 8lb so far to get to a weight I haven’t been since I was 15.

    I haven’t even bothered eating healthily yet but that calorie deficit each day is all that matters. My next step will be trimming out the crap and getting my daily balance better.

    I realise now, I’ve been in denial- losing weight is easy if you’re honest about what you have eaten.

    #819559
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    rnarito

    I was in the same weight
    I was in the same weight range as you in February of last year (same height as well). Without any real guidance I just started riding my bike-a lot. At first, I could only do 10 miles and climbing over freeway overpasses presented real challenges for me, but gradually I cycled 15, then 20 miles and those overpasses soon became afterthoughts. Here I am now at 180 lbs. and riding 80+ miles and 4,000 feet of climbing for my long ride. The key is staying consistent and keep doing it. It doesn’t hurt to avoid processed foods. A little now and then won’t hurt, but don’t make it the foundation of your diet. When you get discouraged (and those days will come), remember “a journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step”. Good luck to you! 🙂

    #819557
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    Cyclist

    After going over all
    After going over all that….

    1: Christmas is coming get a coach for six months as a present.

    2: you should always be slight…..just slightly be edging on the side of hunger anyway.

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