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Strange marks on Carbon Frame Canon Ultimate CF 8.0 2014

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  • September 26, 2014 at 12:43 pm #22464
    OlivierV

    Hello !

    I’ve just received the new bike I’ve ordered weeks ago at Canyon.
    Out of the box, the top tube is presenting strange marks like the painting was too thin to hide the below carbon layouts.

    After sending the pictures to Canyon, they said it was “normal” but I found it strange since I haven’t noticed such marks on some Specialized ou Cannondale bikes I have seen in shops. Even with black mate painting.

    I have 30 days to return the bike but before I do that, I’d like to know your opinion about these marks ? And if you have ever received a bike in such a state ? Would you recommend to send the bike back ?

    I’ve attached some pictures.

    Thank you.

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  • September 29, 2014 at 7:26 am #815999
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    glynr36

    I have 3 mates who ride
    I have 3 mates who ride Canyon ultimates, 2 have similar marks and one doesn’t.
    Just a by product of the manufacturing process.

    September 28, 2014 at 9:11 pm #815997
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    Dutch25

    I’ve got a CF SL 9.0 and I’m
    I’ve got a CF SL 9.0 and I’m afraid mine hasn’t got any of those marks with essentially the same paint job (grey instead of the yellow). I know that is of no comfort to you but it’s just to show it’s not on all Canyon’s bikes. That said I don’t mind the lines as I quite like the layered carbon look. I can’t think its a carbon default. I suppose it’s down to personal preference.

    September 27, 2014 at 9:28 am #815995
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    Leeroy_Silk

    Here you go. Pretty sure this
    Here you go. Pretty sure this is quite common place on frames made as a clamshell, where two symmetrical monocoques are bonded together.

    September 27, 2014 at 5:44 am #815993
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    OlivierV

    Hi Leeroy,
    Would you be OK to
    Hi Leeroy,

    Would you be OK to post a photo of your Pinarello frame where those marks appear ?

    Thanks.

    September 26, 2014 at 7:40 pm #815991
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    Leeroy_Silk

    They look to me like the join
    They look to me like the join lines you’ll find on some Carbon frames. It’s not a paint issue as the paint will only follow the contours of the substrate, which in your case is the join between the carbon layers. It’s not pleasant to look at but rest assured it’s not a defect in the frame. I have the same seam in some areas on my Pinarello, annoying but normal.

    September 26, 2014 at 3:03 pm #815989
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    OlivierV

    It’s probably a mix of paint
    It’s probably a mix of paint and varnish at the same time as “the infamous grouse” said before in the thread.

    And yes, it’s probably a pure cosmetic issue but hell, it’s just above the top tube so I can’t imagine riding my bike and constantly focus on this inperfection.

    When asked, Canyon replied :
    “Those marks are perfectly normal on a carbon frame. They are coming from the contact between the painting/varnish and the carbon. It is perfectly safe to ride the bike”.

    When asked if the marks could be less visible after using the bike, they said :
    “No, those marks won’t fade through time. It is a fact than we cannot manage. The marks are more or less visible depending the bike. They can not be compared but they will eventually be visible on every bike on the top tube”.

    That’s actually what bothers me the most… Cause I haven’t noticed such marks on every other bikes I have seen in different shops and on different brands of bikes.

    September 26, 2014 at 2:29 pm #815987
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    Jimmy Ray Will

    Is it painted, or is it
    Is it painted, or is it lacquered uni-directional carbon?

    To me it looks like the edges of/imperfections within the carbon as it was laid.

    Purely cosmetic, but I can understand why you’d not like it.

    If you are unhappy send it back and get another one.

    September 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm #815985
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    the infamous grouse

    looks like a poor paint job.
    looks like a poor paint job. possibly too much solvent/thinners used in the spray mix hence the weave visibility and what looks like runs on the top tube and seatstays.

    September 26, 2014 at 1:48 pm #815983
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    Scrufftie

    It doesn’t look right to me
    It doesn’t look right to me

    September 26, 2014 at 1:05 pm #815981
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    stuartpage

    I’m no expert, but that
    I’m no expert, but that doesn’t look right to me.

    A paint job should be even.

    It looks like either the frame was in 2 parts and has been stuck together (unlikely), the CF mould for the tube(s) has a defect that has created the “groove” in the tube that the paint job shouldn’t and won’t fill, or just it’s a shoddy paint job.

    Exercise the right to return and go to your LBS

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